Anyone up? Harry & Meghan Royal Wedding Watch thread

[soccerdad72]

According to the article, nearly half of Harry's net worth is inheritance from Diana's estate, which makes sense. It says he got $17 million when he turned 30.

 

[lisaviolet]

She was also Zoe in Firefly ( the best show ever that fox killed). Zoe was a strong woman too.

I just remembered that she was in Alias. How could I forget that character? I just adore her.

I don't know Firefly, hopefully it's on Netflix. She's a great actress.

 

[RedAngie]

I haven’t read all 32 pages of this thread but have to add that Gina Torres was the best dressed guest. She looked beautiful.

I loved her dress, but her hat was kind of blah.

From what I understand, she and Laurence Fishburne separated last year. I think she was the only Suits cast member who didn't bring a plus one.

 

[lisaviolet]

I think it's pretty darn great that Prince Harry got to not only fall in love with but also marry the woman he loves (instead of having his spouse pretty much picked for him) is pretty darn great. And what's also really great is how they were able to develop their relationship in private before the whole world found out and the papparazzi started following them around everywhere.

Yes on all of it.

And especially the ability to have space to have their initial relationship in private. To have and cherish those memories, in what will be such a public life.

It helped that the Invictus Games were in Toronto, for sure. With him needing to come here to organize and then host them. Really assisted them in keeping it covered up.

 

[larissawbb]

I just remembered that she was in Alias. How could I forget that character? I just adore her.

I don't know Firefly, hopefully it's on Netflix. She's a great actress.

It’s not on Netflix anymore but is on Hulu and Amazon. It really was a great show and there was a follow up movie Serenity.

 

[Tinks]

Oh my is right! I can't even imagine on all sides.

So many Oprah lovers on here.

I love Oprah. And bread.

Ok- So I'm another one coming forward to admit that Meghan makes me feel uneasy. She's a beautiful lady but there's just something that seems not right.

Also, I wondered why Oprah would be invited to the wedding. Then I read today that Meghan's mom is doing a sit down interview in London with Oprah all about the wedding etc.
So they invited Oprah to the wedding so she could see first hand.

Just yuck. I'm actually surprised to read that Meghan's mom would do an interview and the Royals would be ok with it. Even if it's a fluff piece about how wonderful everything is and how amazing it is that a member of the Royal family would marry a bi-racial woman. I think the interview is about Doria's life and how hard it is to be a minority, raising a daughter and then this daughter marries in to royalty. Maybe fluff isn't the word, but what ever it is, I don't like that she's being interviewed. And because I don't like Oprah, I think that makes it worse. Oprah will make it more dramatic than it is.

 

[Imzadi]

Well you do have an outcome on your thoughts, unfortunately.

Me, not so much.

Well, time will tell.

For the record, I used to also defend Angelina Jolie, when so many here were scathing about her, saying she is a man stealer, (like Brad was innocent in the whole thing) and she'd mess him up in the end. I used to say how she had grown & changed after going to Cambodia, adopted Maddox, got involved in human rights, donated a lot to charity WITH Brad. That she was different and they really seemed to fit together, having the same values.

We all know how that turned out. She did try to mess him up, take away his rights to see his children and make it seem like he was an unfit parent and the FBI got involved in the situation.

I must have a soft (blind?) spot for people publicly doing human rights stuff and getting involved with charities. When, for all I know, once they are at home, they could go around kicking puppies.

I was no great lover of Meghan in the beginning of her relationship with Harry. But not for the reasons of most dissenters here. It was because she was messing up one of my favorite TV shows, Suits!

I get that people seem to think she gives off a phony vibe and is disingenuous. But, she's not a great actress on the show either. Not necessarily disparaging her. She literally is a B-level actress, on a B-level cable TV show, on a B-level cable network. She's no Meryl Streep or Cate Blanchett or Sandra Bullock. So, I'm kind of used to limited acting and range of emotions.

7 years ago, Suits was put on the USA Network to move that channel away from their 24 hr marathon of non-stop, Law & Order, reruns. NBC owns the network and wanted to introduce shorter, edgier series that they couldn't get away with on their major network. So, they introduced their "summer TV series" as I call them. Suits, In Plain Sight, & Royal Pains, were their first 3 series they aired. They really did change the identity of the USA Network.

I watched them all. Gave me a summer fix as the major networks were on hiatus. Turns out Suits was fantastically written, tight, sharp, intelligent. It's about 2 male attorneys who start out as genius mentor/student, then become colleagues, then strong BFFs. 4 other people fill out the cast in their office.

ALL the women who work on Suits, whether in that office or show up as GFs ALL wear quite sexy, revealing clothes - that one would never wear in a law firm or in court. But, these women do and get away with it.

Meghan's character, "Rachel" was the young, sexy, smart paralegal. Her character & function on the show was for the second male lead, Mike, to first be interested in her, they flirt back & forth for a few seasons, then fall in love. They had a few steamy sex scenes together and once she appears in only a bath towel when Mike gets home, or something like that. Meghan, starting on the show, fully knew what the character was about, and what was required, how she was there to sell sex to the younger male viewers on the show - just like she was cute & sexy on Deal, or No Deal. They progressed Rachel by having her go to law school & then work to ward passing the bar, etc. But, again, Megan is a B-level actress. She was good in this role on this show, and for what the show required of her.

By season 4(?) Mike finally proposes to Rachel. YAY!!!

Probably the next season or so, those characters would have gotten married.

Only about that time, in real life, Meghan starts dating Prince Harry. Harry still had kind of a partying reputation. So, I certainly didn't take their relationship seriously when I heard about it. I actually thinking it would end eventually. But, then the rumors came out how she was spending more time in London and Harry in Toronto and it was becoming serious between them.

And I *think* the producers of Suits, didn't know what to do with "Rachel". Is Meghan going to stay or not stay? She was a key character because of her relationship with the second lead. They can't just have her disappear or leave. Rachel was integral to MIKE. If she left and HOW she left would affect Mike and how he moves forward emotionally on the show. And they couldn't just kill her off.

And at that time, I think the 2 leads had it in their contract that they don't have to film so many hours. Which meant they'd be on less time on the show. But, their characters, for 4 years were usually filmed together. That was what made the show so great, their friendship as BFFs. It was 90% of the show. Like Sherlock & Watson. So, having them on less, meant they needed film them separately, in different scenes to fill in the air time with one or the other.

So Mike had more scenes with Rachel. A Rachel the producers didn't know what to do with. PLUS, it was obvious, Meghan really didn't want to be on the show. Meghan started playing Rachel in a whiny and complaining way about everything. And she needed the producers to cut her sexy scenes with Mike down to just a kiss here and there. AND she wanted her character to have more substance. So Mike & Rachel started having a lot of fights & disagreements. And Rachel's wardrobe changed to more demure.

Meghan also couldn't just leave the show, because that would signal to all the media that things were becoming really serious with Harry. And Buckingham Palace needed to be the ones to state any "official relationship" between them. I'm not the only one who noticed all this. There is a whole Reddit forum on Suits where they were complaining about how the show had changed and about Meghan & Harry messing up a great show, along with the hiring of new bad writers by then.

I did also roll my eyes when Harry & Meghan first got engaged. But what turned me around to give her a chance was hearing about her background and how she had done so much human rights stuff on her own before ever meeting Harry. And that she was also using her fame for good causes, in addition to how to live a fancy life. I gave her points for camping out in Botswana for a week(?) on their second date with no running water or toilet. I couldn't do it! Prince or no prince!

They just seem to have a lot in common. Does she crave being in the spotlight? Yes. One has to be to be in the Royal family. I once saw an interview with George Clooney, where he said any GF of his HAS to be comfortable being in the public eye, because that's his life.

I also remember the early days, after Diana first got engaged. She used to shy away from the camera and run. And Charles had to coach her NOT to do that. That she had to accept them being part of her life from now on.

What I am concerned about is whether Meghan uses her new fame to continue to promote good causes? On the one hand, I don't care how phony/disingenuous she may seem at times. She wasn't a great actress when she had to act. And this is the biggest "character" of her life. So, I'm not expecting much in that regard.

Does she make Harry happy? Can she continue to? Especially in their private life?

Will she be able to handle constantly being berated by "The Firm" when she is doing something they don't approve of? Will she be able to accept that long term? She has had her own voice for a long time, promoting her own causes. She gave up her social media accounts, but that was really kind of short term, in the perspective of things. Can she handle the Palace telling her what she can & can't talk about, what she can do and not do?

Sarah Ferguson couldn't. She said she was liked in the beginning because she was a breath of fresh air. They liked that she was spunky & sassy. But, later, they'd haul her in EVERY WEEK for being too spunky & sassy. She & Diana giggled too much. She'd be too off the cuff, saying the wrong thing. She wore appalling clothes at times. She gained weight as she got depressed & anxious and the media turned on her, calling her porky Fergie.

Will Meghan be able to last due to all those pressures, scrutiny, rules? I hope so. I want Harry to be happy, for all that he's gone though after losing Diana, and being lost for quite some years afterward.

But as I said, I defended Angelina too, when I thought she had grown & changed.

 

[lisaviolet]

I don't like that she's being interviewed. And because I don't like Oprah, I think that makes it worse.

Another one who doesn't like Oprah. I had no clue how many of you don't like her, until this thread. I'm truly surprised and obviously very off topic.

Am I alone in my love of Ms. Winfrey? Love her.

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Tinks, on the other I really have no clue. I did wonder what the connection was when I saw her at the wedding, simply thinking that I must not be privy to some relationship she has with Meghan or Harry. News to me.

 

[Imzadi]

From what I understand, she and Laurence Fishburne separated last year. I think she was the only Suits cast member who didn't bring a plus one.

No! I had wondered if she had left Suits because it was doing a number on her marriage. She had said she wanted to be back in L.A. more to be with family. I guess that's because they have joint custody now, and she HAS to be in L.A. during her time with the kids, as she doesn't want to drag them to Toronto.

 

[lisaviolet]

It’s not on Netflix anymore but is on Hulu and Amazon. It really was a great show and there was a follow up movie Serenity.

Thanks. I will check Netflix here just in case. We often have different line-ups on ours and I might get lucky.

 

[lisaviolet]

Sarah Ferguson couldn't.

I don't know what coverage I was watching, but someone let out that Sarah has said people have no clue whatsoever what it is like to live within the Royal Family. An example was given that even in the more casual homes you had to follow an order of who went through a door first, entering and leaving.

Hopefully things have changed somewhat, over the last thirty years. I can't even imagine. I enjoy tradition, but really.

It will be interesting to see where the monarchy goes with this new generation.

 

[hereyago]

I think they are adorable. I also think Meghan can handle the attention and the Royals(mostly the Queen). I think when she (Queen) passes and Charles really is too not motivated, there will be more progression on how things are different.

Meghan knows Harry has her back when he put out a statement after people writing some racial stuff.

I will say I am happy the Monarchy has progressed so much: a bi racial, divorced, non UK citizen is able to marry into royalty.

Camilla and Charles made me want to throw up, just saying.

 

[Imzadi]

According to the article, nearly half of Harry's net worth is inheritance from Diana's estate, which makes sense. It says he got $17 million when he turned 30.

That makes sense.

Okay, maybe I would endure a week without running water & toilet for a part of $40 million.

 

[lisaviolet]

I think they are adorable. I also think Meghan can handle the attention and the Royals(mostly the Queen). I think when she (Queen) passes and Charles really is too not motivated, there will be more progression on how things are different.

Meghan knows Harry has her back when he put out a statement after people writing some racial stuff.

That's truly a great thing. Agreed. One has to be able to deal with all the attention. Love is not enough with all that goes on for them. Love and the ability to handle it is the key.

And yes that last part, having your spouse/partner have your back is paramount to any relationship. Even more in their distinct situation. And you just didn't see it with his statement which was both just and smart, his reactions/body language shows how caring he will most likely be for her.

There was a sweet moment where Harry and William were talking before the ceremony. And it was clear to the commentators that they were talking about/checking on Meghan's mom.

 

[Imzadi]

Meghan knows Harry has her back when he put out a statement after people writing some racial stuff.

And yes that last part, having your spouse/partner have your back is paramount to any relationship. Even more in their distinct situation. And you just didn't see it with his statement which was both just and smart, his reactions/body language shows how caring he will most likely be for her.

Yes, that was also a problem that Fergie mentioned. Andrew was off in the Military so much. So she was left alone to be hauled in and berated by The Firm each week. I think she said they had only spent a total of 80 days together throughout all their marriage, or some insanely small amount, as he was away so much.

And she said in an interview with Oprah, one of the reasons why she & Andrew didn't get re-married when they obviously do live in the same house and get along so well is that now she doesn't have to deal with all that Royal stuff.

 

[Imzadi]

The Page Six TV show just announced the connection to why George Clooney is connected to the Royal family. George has a famous tequila company. Princess Eugenie's fiance is an ambassador for the company in the UK. George played "bartender" at the wedding reception to hawk the tequila to everyone.

There is now speculation as to whether the Clooneys will attend Princess Eugenie's upcoming wedding too.

 

[ronandannette]

...BUT we cannot look away from the fact that Meghan had the audacity to wear a white wedding dress when she's not pure AND a divorcee. OMG! Anything but white! Pass me the smelling salts. Totally classless. She should be ashamed of herself instead of looking all smug and beautiful and (newly, really) rich. I mean at least Harry was pure standing up there all cute and handsome. Right?

Oh thank Heavens!! Finally somebody that shares my outrage, although I'm sure you agree the real icing on the cake (no pun intended) was the travesty of the veil over her face. (Note to the Reader: This is satire, people. I'm pretty sure AnnaFloridaLover does NOT agree with a word I just said. )

I like her hat. And her dress (not the material though). But remain curious to see what her scrapped outfit looked like.

I was OK with the dress; it looked fine. Maybe it's just me but I am not big on attracting undue attention, especially in a setting like the one we're talking about. Choosing the right wedding-guest attire can be tough for even much more mundane events than a Royal Wedding. (Lord knows we've seen it agonized over often enough on the CB.) I think something understated like what Oprah ended up in was a much more appropriate choice than the "show-stoppers" Amal Clooney and Charles Spencer's wife wore.

My youngest daughter has a reputation for being very friendly, very easy going, never met someone who isn't a friend. Ironically she has a "list" of celebrities she will have no part of for reasons she cannot explain. The list is completely random and off the wall. I know that Morgan Freeman and Rachel Ray are on her list. It's always a head scratcher when she announces another name. I know my father could not stand Ethel Merman.

I like that idea...I like it a lot. I think I shall compile such a list for myself, so I'm ready to demure if called on to interface with Hollywood's who's who. I will start my list with Ellen Degeneres, Penn Jillette and just for @lisaviolet , Oprah Winfrey.

...I must have a soft (blind?) spot for people publicly doing human rights stuff and getting involved with charities. When, for all I know, once they are at home, they could go around kicking puppies. ...

Good works are good works, and the impact on the lives of the needy doesn't change based on the character of the "benevolent" one. But if you're interested in things like this I recommend a book called Shadows of a Princess, about Diana, written by her long-time private secretary. It is far from a salacious tell-all; actually quite a snooze with all the copious facts, figures and minute details of what was a fairly dull routine. There are some eye-opening passages about how she chose the charities and causes she supported (and sometimes abruptly stopped supporting) though. Every one was carefully calculated for an effect of one kind or another.

 

[lisaviolet]

and just for @lisaviolet , Oprah Winfrey.

Noooooo!

Where the hell is all the Oprah love? Not only do I adore her I like quite a few shows on OWN, starting with Super Soul Sunday.

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Evening reception link below - I would have loved to have seen some of the dresses. Hers was so beautiful, lovely on her. But it's nice that they had the privacy.

https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2018/05/royal-wedding-reception-details

Looks like a hell of a lot of fun.
But then again dancing with Idris Elba - or just looking at him - pretty well covers a hell of a lot of fun.

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Vanity Fair has the Suits cast at the evening reception, but others have them karaoke full steam ahead elsewhere. Maybe some of them were invited or it was afterwards.

 

[ronandannette]

Noooooo!

Where the hell is all the Oprah love? Not only do I adore her I like quite a few shows on OWN, starting with Super Soul Sunday.

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Evening reception - I would have loved to have seen some of the dresses. Hers was so beautiful, lovely on her. But it's nice that they had the privacy.

https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2018/05/royal-wedding-reception-details

Looks like a hell of a lot of fun.
But then again dancing with Idris Elba pretty well covers a hell of a lot of fun.

Shhshh...calm down, it's OK - I was just playing with you. She's not on my list - I don't passionately dislike her. In fact I'm so indifferent to Oprah I wouldn't waste list space.

 

[Planogirl]

Wasn't Burn Notice also a hit for USA? USA is actually a pretty strong cable channel from my understanding.

I must be so clueless! I've gotten no negative vibes from Megan Markle. I just saw two people in love at a nice wedding. It was nice to see Harry settling down because he was quite a wild one for a while. I know virtually nothing about Megan but she sure seemed happy.