perge33 said:
"Welcome to Disney's [insert name] restaurant. We believe that 'WDW is for everybody,' so please get your kids out of here."
WDW is indeed for parents and non-parents alike. But if unruly children are the problem, why not advocate more attention on Disney's part to those parents who don't control their children? Or is the problem even the well-behaved ones? I have been bothered by unruly groups of adults in restaurants-- I don't see the logic in leaving them alone but excluding ALL kids, no matter how well-seasoned in restaurant etiquette. I guess I must be missing something.
So how do you weed out the misbehaving children from the well-behaved ones before the meal even starts? You can't. There are over 100 sit-down restaurants at Walt Disney World. What is wrong with prohibiting children from a few of them at dinner?
perge33 said:
Neither my kids nor I are troubled by grown-ups wanting to be "among their own dynamic"-- millions go to bars (like Jellyolls or Mannequins!), adults-only resorts in the Caribbean and Las Vegas every day and we manage to sleep at night
Jellyrolls serves popcorn, not generally considered a meal; does Mannequins even serve food? In either case, these are not places where one can dine in peace. As for Las Vegas? Adults-only resorts? Name three.
robinb said:
I think that having an adult-only restaurant or two is a very good idea. We would definately drop my DD off at a kids club and take advantage of a child-free evening. I too have been to V&A's and Shulas, each time without my own child. However ... I have seen other people's children in both restaurants.
Perfect example! How many dozens of parents each night drop their children off at a Kids Club, or hire a babysitter, so they can enjoy an evening out without their own kids? These Guests, too, it would seem would be happier dining in a child-free environment.
my4kids said:
and I wish that there was adult only dining in my own kitchen on some nights...a restaraunt can not segregate people based on age and height. This would be a huge discrimination suit...
Maybe, maybe not. But a restaurant CAN set a minimum age for patrons.
my4kids said:
Usually expensive restaraunts don't have this problem, because people are not going to plop down that kind of money on their chicken nugget eatin' munchkins...at DW however...people are on vacation , want a nice meal and if they don't choose to use babysitting services (which I would not do either- after all it's my kids vacation too...I'm not going to lock them up while I go have fun) their only choice is to take along the nugget eaters. Add the fact that if a family can afford a Disney vacation, they probably have no problem shelling out the money for an expensive meal on the kids and this is what is gonna happen.
If Disney has 100 sit-down restaurants, and 98 of them permit diners of all ages, that's most assuredly NOT unfair to families.
my4kids said:
The adult only areas on cruise ships etc. are allowed because there is something there that the kids need to be protected from (bar,high smoke level,adult entertainment, there is no telling what a kid might get a glimse of in the spa) Restaurants at Disney are not going to have something that you can not permit a child to see.
Businesses don't set adult-only areas because of what children might see. They do it to cater to adults who prefer to be in an atmosphere without children. Heck, Disney allows children at Pleasure Island - the same place where adults drink in the streets.
Calliaz said:
I think it is a much better solution to have the restaurant give clear behavior expectations for all guests based on the type of atmosphere they want. If someone is unruly, they should be told to stop (or get their children to stop) or be asked to leave
The problem with that is, the patrons can be ASKED to leave, but they can't be FORCED to.
Again, what's wrong with designating one or two restaurants for adults only?
my4kids said:
Wow, we have protected classes? Is that like the endanger animals? How do I get into one of these "classes" And here all this time I thought we were all equal here in America.
Sarcasm will get you nowhere. Yes, those groups for whom anti-discrimination laws were enacted are known as protected classes.
3DisneyNUTS said:
Disney doesn't cater to the adult only segment that is why the restaurants latests seatings are 9-9:30.
Actually, that's a pretty common practice in many restaurants, especially during the week. Even non-Disney restaurants have closing times.
3DisneyNUTS said:
Now while I don't plan to take my son to eat late night at a restaurant while in WDW there are some circumstances where I have needed to. For example he had a seizure right before our 6:30 PS and slept for 2 hours waking up really hungry. I am not comfortable having my son eat alot of fast food so we will go to the restaurant we intended to at 6:30 and have a meal. Now that sitaution is rare for us but it has happened. I will not plan for my son to eat at 9pm but I will take him to a nicer restaurant at 9pm if the situation warrants it. It is Disney for crying out loud.
Fine. Now, if Disney
designates one or two restaurants as adults-only, you would never have made plans to eat in that one or two places in the first place. You still get to take your son where you'd planned, the adults who want to dine without children around still get to eat where they made ADRs - everybody's happy.
3DisneyNUTS said:
Plus exaggerations are always plenty when people are trying to make a point. I have NEVER in my 34 years seen a child throw food in a restaurant. I think it is extrememly rare that a person would ever see that.
It may be rare, but it does happen. If no children are permitted in a particular restaurant or two, then no children would possibly throw food in those restaurants.
3DisneyNUTS said:
Walts dream was to create a place where families could go and enjoy things together.
That would be
Disneyland, Magic Kingdom and Epcot - NOT restaurants outside the parks but on Disney property.
3DisneyNUTS said:
EXACTLY so the entire notion of an adult only restaurant is completely opposite to this.
No. The entire notion of an adult-only THEME PARK may be completely opposite to Walt's vision.
3DisneyNUTS said:
The reason
Disney Cruise has adults only sections is because you are on a ship and you can just jump overboard to get away from children. Disney World is completely different. If you want an adult only experience international drive is a few minutes away with plenty of restaurants.
Why? I don't have a car - I use Magical Express. Why should I rent a car or pay for a cab to go somewhere offsite when Disney could designate ONE OR TWO of its HUNDRED restaurants as adults-only?