News Round Up 2017

[rteetz]

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Siemens Abruptly Leaves Spaceship Earth Corporate Lounge Before Contract End, Disney Taking Ownership Immediately

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

if it's "supply and demand", then why bother luring me in?

Then drop the mic.

No mic drop. Every timeshare functions this way: enticement to tour, tour, closer, sign deal (hopefully).

That is not at all a sign of a problem. There may well be a problem, but enticements to tour are not a sign.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

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Siemens Abruptly Leaves Spaceship Earth Corporate Lounge Before Contract End, Disney Taking Ownership Immediately

Well man that seems to have escalated quickly..it's like Siemens is trying to get the heck out of Dodge. I mean really they had like 2 months left on the contract. I guess they felt 2 months was 2 months too long for the lounge/meeting space operation.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Well man that seems to have escalated quickly..it's like Siemens is trying to get the heck out of Dodge. I mean really they had like 2 months left on the contract. I guess they felt 2 months was 2 months too long for the lounge/meeting space operation.

 

[Delano Fiedler]

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Siemens Abruptly Leaves Spaceship Earth Corporate Lounge Before Contract End, Disney Taking Ownership Immediately

Things derailed quite fastly I have the impression that doing business with Disney is very demanding.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

never seems to get old for me at least.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

No mic drop. Every timeshare functions this way: enticement to tour, tour, closer, sign deal (hopefully).

That is not at all a sign of a problem. There may well be a problem, but enticements to tour are not a sign.

Are we gonna rehash this one again?

All timeshares are not equal. Dvc has made efforts to minimize incentives since it was established with strong sales...circa early 2000s

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

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Siemens Abruptly Leaves Spaceship Earth Corporate Lounge Before Contract End, Disney Taking Ownership Immediately

So... wait... Siemens took off bc Disney didn't want to be paid in-kind??

"Apparently the relationship between the two companies soured rapidly after Disney turned down a new monorail fleet for Walt Disney World that Siemens offered in-lieu of compensation for a new sponsorship deal."

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

Are we gonna rehash this one again?

All timeshares are not equal. Dvc has made efforts to minimize incentives since it was established with strong sales...circa early 2000s

I don't recall ever discussing tour enticements on DIS.

"Minimize incentives" - sure - what are they offering here? $40, $50?? Peanuts, as my mom used to say.

I'm not sounding alarm bells based on that.

We paid way more to pull people in years ago. Friends who work at Marriott pay way more today to entice a tour. Even with this tiny little offer they are below industry cost on this.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

I don't recall ever discussing tour enticements on DIS.

"Minimize incentives" - sure - what are they offering here? $40, $50?? Peanuts, as my mom used to say.

I'm not sounding alarm bells based on that.

We paid way more to pull people in years ago. Friends who work at Marriott pay way more today to entice a tour. Even with this tiny little offer they are below industry cost on this.

I agree it's not much...but the fact they want to give anything is a bit telling if you follow Disney's thought process: which they convince themselves that everything is always "worth it" in price.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

So... wait... Siemens took off bc Disney didn't want to be paid in-kind??

"Apparently the relationship between the two companies soured rapidly after Disney turned down a new monorail fleet for Walt Disney World that Siemens offered in-lieu of compensation for a new sponsorship deal."

That's a stupid move on Disney's part. Who cares if Siemens wanted it to be a product they could right off instead of a check?

Of course...that shows disney only wants the checks...and maybe they don't want monorails long term?

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

That's a stupid move on Disney's part. Who cares if Siemens wanted it to be a product they could right off instead of a check?

Of course...that shows disney only wants the checks...and maybe they don't want monorails long term?

Or they want the checks right now and don't see dumping money into the monorails as the right investment at this time. Not sure why that's automatically stupid. We don't have all the info; could well be a solid business decision.

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

I agree it's not much...but the fact they want to give anything is a bit telling if you follow Disney's thought process: which they convince themselves that everything is always "worth it" in price.

It's SO small that I'm not sure it is telling, actually. Meh. Guess we'll see eventually if there really is a shoe to drop here, or much ado about nothing.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

It's SO small that I'm not sure it is telling, actually. Meh. Guess we'll see eventually if there really is a shoe to drop here, or much ado about nothing.

Perhaps if you had experience in sales and revenue control at disney?

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Or they want the checks right now and don't see dumping money into the monorails as the right investment at this time. Not sure why that's automatically stupid. We don't have all the info; could well be a solid business decision.

Right...it's also not "benefit of the doubt" wise either...

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

Perhaps if you had experience in sales and revenue control at disney?

I know that you hold that card. And it's an AWESOME one and for the record I am SUPER JEALOUS. Doesn't mean that you're right about everything Disney-revenue-control related, especially years after you departed Disney. Is that fair?

We'll give your view 80% weight and mine only 20%, ok?

ETA: 90/10??

 

[OhioStateBuckeye]

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Siemens Abruptly Leaves Spaceship Earth Corporate Lounge Before Contract End, Disney Taking Ownership Immediately

I'm worried about Spaceship Earth. I know it's already been changed in the past and those changes were largely negative.

I am also aware that not everyone loves the ride, but it just seems to quintessential Disney to me. Animatronics, bit of history, entertaining, corny jokes.

 

[hakepb]

Or they want the checks right now and don't see dumping money into the monorails as the right investment at this time. Not sure why that's automatically stupid. We don't have all the info; could well be a solid business decision.

Or was Disney's decision made for them by their contract for gondolas with a Siemens competitor?

 

[lockedoutlogic]

I'm worried about Spaceship Earth. I know it's already been changed in the past and those changes were largely negative.

I am also aware that not everyone loves the ride, but it just seems to quintessential Disney to me. Animatronics, bit of history, entertaining, corny jokes.

You should be worried...

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Or was Disney's decision made for them by their contract for gondolas with a Siemens competitor?

Now that's possible...