Are manners becoming extinct?

[goofyernmost]

Wow! I meet a lot of sweet and well behaved kids. Related to me and just out and about. The ones that aren't are the outliers.

Where in what I said did I say that all were that way. The ones that are though I still think it was the upbringing not society itself.

 

[gmi3804]

I'll bet people in the 1800s were bemoaning the fact that manners were becoming extinct. That's like the old "no one wants to work anymore" trope.

 

[tinkerbellandpeterpan]

That's a bunch of crap. I know of no one that was ever scolded because they held a door open, it's not sexist it is common courtesy for male or female.

Poor parenting is the cause of the decline of manners and the outside world all acting like spoiled little brats. Because they are spoiled little brats.

You said it right there.

 

[shh]

Yesterday morning when I was leaving the gym I held the door open for a young women, maybe late 20’s, and she stopped short and told me she was perfectly capable of opening the door herself.

how rude and in my opinion - low class - of her. She's the one with zero manners. I'm sorry you encountered her.

 

[Robbie Cottam]

Something I’m pondering this morning. But I worked in schools forever. it seems that as time marches on, manners are no longer be taught nor expected from children. This also applies to many adults, who of late are complained about on these boards. Is it the decline of society as a whole, or just flat out, bad parenting.

Become no,

went extinct in the late 90s early 2000s

we are all just now realizing the mess we are in

 

[starlite_]

I did the same to a mom of one of my school friends whose last name I wasn’t sure about. Hello, Mrs. Brian’s Mom.

I still call my friends parents that and we are all adults now xD

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

I find that people that go on about manners and children are usually the rude ones. Usually very judgemental type of personalities.

Often the most ill mannered when it comes to giving deference to others think they are the most entitled to deference from others. Totally illogical. But so often true.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Now when I’m leaving or entering a building and see someone approaching I always hold the door whether it be man or woman but I was raised to always hold the door for a lady.

If you hold the door open regardless of gender why does it matter what the gender of the person is? That's rhetorical because I know that's how you were taught but it's in conflict to the first part of your statement, if you do it for all now stands to reason you can let go of thinking about it in the way of "always holding the door open always for women"

The reason why some individuals take issue with it is a presumption based on gender as if instead of it being seen as a polite thing to do for anyone it's merely just something you're supposed to do for one gender over another. I think it helps people struggling with being rebuffed to understand that it's very likely someone who ended up having a problem with their door being opened for them was subjected to comments or actual behaviors in the past that instead of being seen as an individual they were merely seen as their gender.

I was taught to open the doors for anyone because that's a nice thing to do, a nice gesture so this whole gender thing was never part of my childhood. I think that makes for a different viewpoint IMO.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Why not? The world was such a wonderful place peaceful place with no wars prior to millennials taking the reigns....

Fine I'll go sulk away while eating my avocado toast

 

[TipsyTraveler]

Fine I'll go sulk away while eating my avocado toast

That avocado toast is the reason you Millennials can’t afford college, or houses, or children!

 

[Robbie Cottam]

That avocado toast is the reason you Millennials can’t afford college, or houses, or children!

What do you mean Millennials can't afford houses....
they live in the house their parents paid for.....

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

That avocado toast is the reason you Millennials can’t afford college, or houses, or children!

I know, right!?

 

[Robbie Cottam]

Damn, I wish my parents had paid for my house...

How ignorant

My mother and my son live in my house. I moved out....

 

[The Mayor]

If you hold the door open regardless of gender why does it matter what the gender of the person is? That's rhetorical because I know that's how you were taught but it's in conflict to the first part of your statement, if you do it for all now stands to reason you can let go of thinking about it in the way of "always holding the door open always for women"

The reason why some individuals take issue with it is a presumption based on gender as if instead of it being seen as a polite thing to do for anyone it's merely just something you're supposed to do for one gender over another. I think it helps people struggling with being rebuffed to understand that it's very likely someone who ended up having a problem with their door being opened for them was subjected to comments or actual behaviors in the past that instead of being seen as an individual they were merely seen as their gender.

I was taught to open the doors for anyone because that's a nice thing to do, a nice gesture so this whole gender thing was never part of my childhood. I think that makes for a different viewpoint IMO.

I was just sharing an experience I had and not looking for a psychological evaluation.

 

[SpaceMan5]

Lots of interesting perspectives and thoughts on this subject.

I will always open/hold open doors for anyone.

To borrow a line from Sinatra, "I did it, I did it my way"

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I was just sharing an experience I had and not looking for a psychological evaluation.

Well with that response I wonder how that interaction with the opening of the door really went down

 

[Smugpugmug]

That avocado toast is the reason you Millennials can’t afford college, or houses, or children!

Well, maybe if you laid off the avocado toast and venti Starbucks drinks you'd be able to afford a $800,000 home that cost $15 in 1975!

 

[georgina]

Interesting how this turned once again to millennial bashing. I raised 3 millennial kids to be independent and support themselves well, all without calling people sir and ma'am and treating women like they are weak. I dealt with a lot of crap as an engineering student in the early '80's, which I'm sure influenced my attitude towards this. The mess society is in is not due to young people without manners. It's much deeper than that.

 

[CdnCarrie]

All the millennials I know own homes. Why is there some weird North American rumor about them not owning houses. I don’t get it.

 

[Disneylover99]

All the millennials I know own homes. Why is there some weird North American rumor about them not owning houses. I don’t get it.

Many millennials in my area just can’t afford to buy houses.