MAJOR changes to Genie+!

[Nick6300]

What if any changes to Genie+ will we see when Chapek is removed as CEO due to lack of confidence?

on the last earnings call, it bugged me that analyst after analyst asked him, almost begging him to commit to price increases to Disney+ once the ad version is released.

 

[SeasonneRose]

Ha. I honestly think they just o

Like onsite can book G+ at midnight and offsite at 7am? <sarcasm>

I honestly think that they put that out to get people in the mindset of things changing. This announcement is must step 1. That’s why I’m not paying much attention to this midnight nonsense.

I eventually think that on-site will be able to precook in advance (perhaps in the same timeframe as their current 30/60 days for other things). Deluxe May get the earlier of the times.

 

[xipotec]

So

We were there this week (just got back), and that's exactly what we did and we stacked LL's up with always something to do for 4-5 hours at each park and we were done and ready for dinner - very easy and much more enjoyable than past trips.

Just to clarify:

You booked lighting lanes for later in the day? How? I though you had no control over the times?

 

[PaladinButters]

If they did go to dynamic G+ pricing, maybe in an effort for fairness & filling out the lower booking seasons, they could offer $10/person during Value1 & 2, $15 during avg. booking periods, and $20 for peak rather than starting at $15? Yeah, probably not.

I could see 20 / 25 / 30 as a more likely base if they went that route.

Is Epic Universe enough of a looming threat to keep them from going too high too fast on the pricing?

 

[SeasonneRose]

I could see 20 / 25 / 30 as a more likely base if they went that route.

Is Epic Universe enough of a looming threat to keep them from going too high too fast on the pricing?

I think it goes even higher than that. I'm guessing 15/35/50 if they do three tiers. Deluxe will stay where it's at to give the perception of a good deal with no actual loss to the company.

I'm willing to bet Universal is going to jack up the prices of their Express Pass if you want to use it at Epic Universe.

 

[Jrb1979]

Ha. I honestly think they just o

I honestly think that they put that out to get people in the mindset of things changing. This announcement is must step 1. That’s why I’m not paying much attention to this midnight nonsense.

I eventually think that on-site will be able to precook in advance (perhaps in the same timeframe as their current 30/60 days for other things). Deluxe May get the earlier of the times.

I personally don't think advanced booking will return. The best thing they can do is cap sales and make it like MaxPass. You can't use it til you are in the parks

 

[MaC410]

Some of these prices people are suggesting are absolutely absurd. You can compare prices to Universal's Express Pass but that system is nothing like Genie+ and Lightening Lane. Yes you can only use Express Pass once for each ride in Universal but you aren't ever prevented from using it on a ride because there aren't any left like with Lightening Lane. They would have to completely overhaul the Genie+ and Lightening Lane system to even consider going to prices that high. $200 a day for a family of four and not even guaranteed to be able to get on each ride like you can at Universal? No chance.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

So

Just to clarify:

You booked lighting lanes for later in the day? How? I though you had no control over the times?

You don't but you can sorta push off when you go to book yours. Our DISer friend had to do that for one of the parks I'm blanking on which one but she had Genie+ for the day but wanted the times for her afternoon park and the times in the morning were too early for return so she just waited a while to actually book til the LL return times were later in the day.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Yes you can only use Express Pass once for each ride in Universal

There's two different versions

Once through
Unlimited (which means you can ride a ride to your hearts content over and over)

 

[Jrb1979]

Some of these prices people are suggesting are absolutely absurd. You can compare prices to Universal's Express Pass but that system is nothing like Genie+ and Lightening Lane. Yes you can only use Express Pass once for each ride in Universal but you aren't ever prevented from using it on a ride because there aren't any left like with Lightening Lane. They would have to completely overhaul the Genie+ and Lightening Lane system to even consider going to prices that high. $200 a day for a family of four and not even guaranteed to be able to get on each ride like you can at Universal? No chance.

Its why they are capping sales. It will sell out now.

 

[Nick6300]

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[Jrb1979]

$50, yikes. I think I would cut out my Dec holiday trips completely.

I think what the main issue is everyone has this idea that you must have it. The way they are capping sales and possibly raising is saying thats not what Disney wants

 

[CeeCee101]

Here’s a link to an article saying the system works in direct opposition to ADRs
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/how-to-use-disney-genie-at-disney-world-175832500.html

 

[MaC410]

Its why they are capping sales. It will sell out now.

Even with capping sales the way Disney's system works with return times and capping return times will still prevent people from getting lightening lanes for every ride they want. Unless they completely scrap the return time system they can't or shouldn't charge ridiculous prices when they can't guarantee you get to go on the rides.

 

[AnnaKristoff2013]

For those who have problems buying G+ in the morning there is a work around. I didn’t know it yesterday, but I know it now.

https://www.disboards.com/threads/t...gy-only-thread.3857056/page-212#post-64014300

So I don't have a problem buying in the morning but... My photopass lenses never expired after my last trip. My kids still play with it on our ipad. I'm hoping that doesn't mean i'm going to ahve trouble buying genie next trip.

 

[MainMom]

So

Just to clarify:

You booked lighting lanes for later in the day? How? I though you had no control over the times?

If you have a hopper it will automatically show you times after 2pm for your second park. Otherwise you have to wait until enough LL are booked to push the times back enough to get a later time.

 

[Jrb1979]

Even with capping sales the way Disney's system works with return times and capping return times will still prevent people from getting lightening lanes for every ride they want. Unless they completely scrap the return time system they can't or shouldn't charge ridiculous prices when they can't guarantee you get to go on the rides.

They aren't just capping return times they are also capping how many can buy Genie+.

For example right now anyone can buy it but starting June 8th say they let only 5000 people buy it instead.

 

[ilovetotravel1977]

Anyone on here NOT buying Genie+? Our group of 7 are planning on not buying it. We will have 2 days at HS and 2 days at MK (including a Xmas party night) and we weren't going to get it for Epcot or AK anyways. We are rope drop/close park people and stay all day. And we don't like to zigzag through the parks.

Tell me we will be okay without it...please? lol

 

[john7994]

So

Just to clarify:

You booked lighting lanes for later in the day? How? I though you had no control over the times?

You don't but you can sorta push off when you go to book yours. Our DISer friend had to do that for one of the parks I'm blanking on which one but she had Genie+ for the day but wanted the times for her afternoon park and the times in the morning were too early for return so she just waited a while to actually book til the LL return times were later in the day.

Correct, you can't assign the time, as its based on when an LL becomes available. - But, by refreshing at different points throughout the morning (as indicated by Mackenzie) focusing on the ride you want in the tip board as the day progresses, you can get earlier or later return times. You grab the one you want and move forward around things like lunch, shows, and character greets. I find all different choices popping simply by refreshing.

 

[Jennasis]

Anyone on here NOT buying Genie+? Our group of 7 are planning on not buying it. We will have 2 days at HS and 2 days at MK (including a Xmas party night) and we weren't going to get it for Epcot or AK anyways. We are rope drop/close park people and stay all day. And we don't like to zigzag through the parks.

Tell me we will be okay without it...please? lol

We didn't buy it. After using it in December and hating every blasted second of it, we decided to forego it on our trip 2 weeks ago. Rope drop and early entry for the win. Then midday pool breaks and evenings in the park. Delightful.