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Shutdown or Lockdown in your area?

IL and MN will both be going into shutdown mode, and I believe WI will follow by the end of the weekend, but it wouldn't surprise me if it isn't still announced by the end of the day today.
 
IL and MN will both be going into shutdown mode, and I believe WI will follow by the end of the weekend, but it wouldn't surprise me if it isn't still announced by the end of the day today.
I am in MN and I believe this also. Governor is holding his daily press conference now though, and has not said anything.
 


Massachusetts has NO plans to do this per the Governors daily press conference. Very disheartening. How many need to get sick and die before they do something.
 
Massachusetts has NO plans to do this per the Governors daily press conference. Very disheartening. How many need to get sick and die before they do something.
MN governor just said he isn't ready to do that, but then he reminded us he said Friday he wasn't closing schools, but Sunday at noon, he did.
 


I think there's a major enforceablility concern in rural areas, so statewide lockdowns are going to be different and slower coming than city-level lockdowns. The ratio of law enforcement to the number of businesses being shuttered and the way those businesses are spread out will make it hard to enforce on the supply side, and the fact that grocery shopping, outdoor activity, and other exceptions to the lockdown generally require rural residents drive to those places makes locking down the demand side equally difficult. And rural residents tend to be generally more individualistic, IME, and more skeptical of the containment measures specifically.

My town, for example, has two separate business districts, a wealth of trails just outside of town that are perfect for exercising/getting out of the house while still observing distance precautions, and a half-dozen essential businesses. We also have 3 police cars/7 officers. There's usually only one car on duty at any given time and one officer at the station during business hours. How does enforcement work, under those circumstances? The playgrounds are closed, officially, but we don't even have the resources to enforce that so in reality the closure is strictly voluntary. And the math is even worse in truly rural areas - the townships around me all rely on the county sheriff for police protection, and response times run 20-30 minutes when there's a call. There simply aren't resources to ensure people stay home.
This. I live in a state with 2 main populations centers and a lot of flyover in between. Gov can call in nat’l guard all he wants, but he will have to focus on specific areas. In fact, we live 20 miles outside of a major city. We have municipal police department, but a large number of townships in our county and around the state depend on state troopers for local police enforcement. Those townships have been fighting per person cost increases to cover their portion of state trooper expenses and still refuse the expense of local pd.
He's on the subway back so I'll let you know in a little bit. I was disappointed in Stew Leonard's sale circular this week so will wait to return to the Yonkers store until there's more than chicken breasts on sale for 5.00/lb .Pfft-that's not a sale, LOL.
I have been gone 5 years and usually just shopped at flagship Stew’s. But $5!!! Chicken breast would be $2/lb on sale all the time! We would crazy stock up.
 
In Pennsylvania yesterday, the governor ordered all non essential businesses to close. But there is no enforcement. Certain things are still open: grocery stores, pharmacies, gas stations, big box stores, banks, some other stuff. My office is having us work from home for the next two weeks.

We had to go to CVS for some meds and to a grocery store, and boy, you could certainly tell people were staying home. I mean, there were still people out, but maybe 30% of normal?
Going to work this morning, the roads were packed just as much as they have been the last 2 years (sudden surge of traffic compared to 3 and 4 years ago when I would be the only car at 6 am.) Small town, not the big city so my version of roads packed isn't the same as most of the forums' members' roads.

Gas stations and convenience stores are all running. Fast food is drive-thru only. Tobacco shop had a drive-thru set up yesterday. No idea if the mall is closed or not. Ex works at Lowes and she said it's busier than she's ever seen it in 14 years I think.

I unfortunately have no clothes. Bought all my clothing 4 years ago starting over and now they are all splitting in the crotch. Goal was to pay the car off and have some cash this week for clothes. Guess I'm just doing the shutdown naked (I am assuming we will be shut down at work by next week, if not the government, then from GM shutting down.) Kinda wishing I didn't pay off the car and most of the furnace 2 weeks ago. I've had debt since 1992 and I have $164 left to pay, and this happens. Can never get ahead I guess, there's always something, lol.
 
Massachusetts has NO plans to do this per the Governors daily press conference. Very disheartening. How many need to get sick and die before they do something.

I don't think Cuomo had plans to do this either. Then we started testing more and more and finding out just how many people in NY do have it.
 
This. I live in a state with 2 main populations centers and a lot of flyover in between. Gov can call in nat’l guard all he wants, but he will have to focus on specific areas. In fact, we live 20 miles outside of a major city. We have municipal police department, but a large number of townships in our county and around the state depend on state troopers for local police enforcement. Those townships have been fighting per person cost increases to cover their portion of state trooper expenses and still refuse the expense of local pd.

I have been gone 5 years and usually just shopped at flagship Stew’s. But $5!!! Chicken breast would be $2/lb on sale all the time! We would crazy stock up.
Right?! That's just crazy. A whole ribeye cut was on sale for the same price in Feb. as what the chicken breasts are now o_O. And and noooo lobster sale this winter. Sniffles.
Just found out that our three apartment building has a washer/dryer that we can use! I'm so relieved we won't have to use the laundromat anymore. Our landlord's father lives downstairs and it's mostly for his use but they are happy to let us use it now as well.

Yeah for you! That's a ton of money saved plus not having to leave the bldg to wash makes life easier.
 
Going to work this morning, the roads were packed just as much as they have been the last 2 years (sudden surge of traffic compared to 3 and 4 years ago when I would be the only car at 6 am.) Small town, not the big city so my version of roads packed isn't the same as most of the forums' members' roads.

Gas stations and convenience stores are all running. Fast food is drive-thru only. Tobacco shop had a drive-thru set up yesterday. No idea if the mall is closed or not. Ex works at Lowes and she said it's busier than she's ever seen it in 14 years I think.

I unfortunately have no clothes. Bought all my clothing 4 years ago starting over and now they are all splitting in the crotch. Goal was to pay the car off and have some cash this week for clothes. Guess I'm just doing the shutdown naked (I am assuming we will be shut down at work by next week, if not the government, then from GM shutting down.) Kinda wishing I didn't pay off the car and most of the furnace 2 weeks ago. I've had debt since 1992 and I have $164 left to pay, and this happens. Can never get ahead I guess, there's always something, lol.

Naked shutdown, huh? Now that's in my head and won't leave. Pass me the eye bleach please unless someone is hoarding it...
Are there any thrift shops nearby with all the closet/spring clean ups going on right now bet you can find some nice deals:).
Look on the bright side of less debt; thing of beauty from my POV.
 
The town I work in has done so, we don't live there and since I'm a bookkeeper for a 2 person IT company that services mostly doctors, I can go to work to run payroll and pay bills. Cause you know the bills gotta be paid.
https://www.athensclarkecounty.com/...ted-to-COVID-19-Final-Approved-Version?bidId=They also approved money to go to the little local airport to build a bigger run way, cause you know gotta spend that money on an airport that in the 40 years I've lived in the area has never even had a person in the tower.

And this is how I feel about the ordinance:

 
Effective 5 p.m. Saturday local time all Illinois residents in Illinois will be allowed to go to grocery stores, pharmacies, doctors’ appointments and to get gas for their cars but will otherwise be subject to a “stay at home order” through April 7.
 
Now the UK's initiated a lockdown on entertainment venues, restaurants (except takeouts), bars and pubs. However, general retail has yet to experience a lockdown, with some stores already closing on their own accord, and others operating on reduced hours. Essential stores are still continuing to operate.
 
Here is a domino consequence....Mexico border closing....the very small community of mexico that should be an extension of the US, algondoes offers medical services of all kinds, folks travel from all over the three border states for medical care and make reservations in the Casino massive hotel where 90% of the reservations is for mexico visits , they close Monday.....because no one is visiting the casino as it is in the middle of nowhere.. So in three weeks, if ordinary appears again, a huge flood of folks returning to Mexico, long lines to exit in the heat, senior citizens fainting ( about 3 a visit when we are there), and folks with really bad dental problems will have to wait for months to see a mexico dentist because of the backlog.....because once you pay $200.00 for a crown....it is very painful to pay TWO Grand for the same service stateside.
 
I'm in MA where most stuff seems to be city by city with the state governor not taking a lead. This may be a rumor but I heard k-12 schools were only shut down by the governor after every single public school city/district superintendent closed schools on their own. In my city and many cities around me places like nails, skin, hair places, gyms, playgrounds, houses of worship etc are all closed. Entertainment type places are closed. The only childcare open is specific ones for children of certain workers like health care workers.

Pretty much the only places open are restaurants for take out/delivery, grocery stores, drugstores and laundry mats though even some of these have restrictions. City hall is operating but not open to the public. Most meetings are virtual if not cancelled.
 
Here is a domino consequence....Mexico border closing....the very small community of mexico that should be an extension of the US, algondoes offers medical services of all kinds, folks travel from all over the three border states for medical care and make reservations in the Casino massive hotel where 90% of the reservations is for mexico visits , they close Monday.....because no one is visiting the casino as it is in the middle of nowhere.. So in three weeks, if ordinary appears again, a huge flood of folks returning to Mexico, long lines to exit in the heat, senior citizens fainting ( about 3 a visit when we are there), and folks with really bad dental problems will have to wait for months to see a mexico dentist because of the backlog.....because once you pay $200.00 for a crown....it is very painful to pay TWO Grand for the same service stateside.

I went there last month with my mom and step dad to get my dogs medicine and you're right about the folks that go there, they are mostly American or Canadian and usually 50+ years old. I am 36 and felt like the youngest there! They are going to be hit hard without the tourist money they are used to getting.
 
I don't think Cuomo had plans to do this either. Then we started testing more and more and finding out just how many people in NY do have it.

Well Governor Baker (MA) and Raimondo (RI) still won’t make people stay home. Baker said he doesn’t want to do it just because others did. What???

That is how other places are able to gain some control over this. Sure let’s make the same mistake over and over again. Unreal.
 

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