piccolopat
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- Apr 25, 2014
Pocket. Sorry
Neither my purse nor my pockets are big enough to stuff any kind of reusable bag.
Pocket. Sorry
We also don't need more oversized SUVs, wood burning fireplaces, outdoor grills or closets filled with more clothing or shoes than are needed. Everything we do has an impact on the environment. I would rather stores offer recycled paper bags for free versus selling the plastic reusable bags that don't last forever, will still have a negative impact on the environment and that I have to spend time and energy to keep clean and store.
Anyone against or "inconvenienced" by initiatives to cut down on plastic use is selfish, plain and simple. There are lots of plastic problems, bags being one of them, but things have to start somewhere. Maybe next people will realize that humans managed to survive for about 200,000 years without drinking bottled water...
Maybe it’s the cynic in me l, but I see this as nothing more than a way to increase profits while making it more palatable for the consumer. Will this positively impact the environment? Maybe, but not in any meaningful way. I made this point in another thread. It’s the same thing as Poland Spring using thinner, cheaper plastic in their bottles and calling them “green.” These things are only green in the sense that green is the color of money.
We also don't need more oversized SUVs, wood burning fireplaces, outdoor grills or closets filled with more clothing or shoes than are needed. Everything we do has an impact on the environment. I would rather stores offer recycled paper bags for free versus selling the plastic reusable bags that don't last forever, will still have a negative impact on the environment and that I have to spend time and energy to keep clean and store.
Pretty much what I was saying, but you made it shorter.This, exactly. Anyone who is blinded by this saying its a great effort to change the environment is the exact target market of these corporations. Their PR team has succeeded with you. Cost savings for them, but billing it as going green. And anyone who has the audacity to complain about it just looks like they don't care about the environment. A win-win for the corporations.
Actually per mile, flying is generally more green than driving, especially when looking at coaster to coast.I think that you are being a bit harsh calling people selfish if they disagree with you on the use of plastics. You apparently are a DVC member since 2012. Unless you are driving a Prius to get there, some would argue that flying is not environmentally friendly and people survived without DVC for eons. Everyone can and should do what they can to protect the environment but everyone's contribution may be a bit different.
Pretty much what I was saying, but you made it shorter.
Or I just walk home from Target with a bottle of wine in my hands and a smile on my face.
A few stores in my area only offer paper bags - none charge for them. Lots of folks bring re-usable bags of various shapes and sizes to grocery stores in my area because they charge for paper bags. I get charging for paper bags as an incentive to get people to use fewer or to bring their own bags from home (or to re-use previous paper bags).As a side note, I know of at least one store in Chicago that does not charge for bags, but eats the cost instead. So the bag ban has zero affect for patrons of that store. Perhaps there are others too that see it as the inconvenience it is?
This, exactly. Anyone who is blinded by this saying its a great effort to change the environment is the exact target market of these corporations. Their PR team has succeeded with you. Cost savings for them, but billing it as going green. And anyone who has the audacity to complain about it just looks like they don't care about the environment. A win-win for the corporations.
Or...I don't care about their intent and we don't care if we need to use reusable bags. Quite frankly we were already using them long before stores stopped giving out plastic bags for free. They are convenient, hold more stuff, sturdier and horror upon horrors, good for the environment!
And I didn't even need a PR team to make the decision for me!
And I just don't understand the argument that just because we can't solve everything at once, we should do nothing at all. Baloney (or Bologna if you are feeling Italian-ish). And as said above, I agree - get rid of the bags altogether and make everyone use reusable bags. Totally down with that. But if they did that, the outcry of the people who won't be told they need to buy a reusable bag would be deafening. So they still carry plastic bags, but charge for it in hopes of deterring most from buying them.
(I do detest, strongly, paper straws. They get wet and just gross. But I will accept this change with grace )