To Infinity and Beyond - Becoming a Better DopeyBadger (Comments Welcome)

Ack! Keep them away! Fingers crossed! So close, just move marathon to Saturday.... :D



No problem.



Don't I know it. I've seen your Strava descriptions referring to T+D of 150s as "beautiful" and I'm like whoa, those are my "ugh" temps. All relative and what you're used to I guess. We'll probably want to trade back when I'm running in -25 and you in 50-60s. :D

Haha true it's definitely relative. Though I still think ice and snow are way worse than humidity... I don't know how you run in that weather lol
 
Haha true it's definitely relative. Though I still think ice and snow are way worse than humidity... I don't know how you run in that weather lol

Running in the cold is easy, at least as long as I'm not taking into account the mild asthma I have. You just have to put on an extra layer. The heat and humidity is unbearable if you ask me. You can only take off so much clothing before you can't take more off.
 
Non-Scientific Guess
Bib # = 212
Abe Lincoln's Birthday = 2/12
The day John Wilkes Booth planned to attempt his first assassination attempt on Lincoln by kidnapping him at a local play = 3/17/65
Final non-scientific guess = 3:18:05

BTW, that is a very interesting thought process for your non-scientific guess.
 


Almost there!!!!

In honor of the hilarious comments about removal of clothing...I bring you a pantless mile 2!
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Also, don't forget to start fueling now...since it can take a Galapagos turtle up to three weeks to digest a meal #snapplefact212 :)
 
Almost there!!!!

In honor of the hilarious comments about removal of clothing...I bring you a pantless mile 2!
Mile+2.jpg


Also, don't forget to start fueling now...since it can take a Galapagos turtle up to three weeks to digest a meal #snapplefact212 :)


I think pantless is what @ZellyB was referring to with the getting arrested thing.

If we're talking three weeks, I'm pretty sure @DopeyBadger is a little late on starting to fuel.
 


Have a great race @DopeyBadger! You are an inspiration, I will be pulling for you. One year ago you where shooting for sub 4:00. Now you are looking at sub 3:10. Your commitment is inspiring!

Thank you so much! I think your post was a refreshing reminder to sit back and reminisce. My goal last year was 4:00. My goal this year is to do my best. I've got no pressure because I've already reached milestone "finish a marathon" and milestone "break 4:00" and milestone "break 3:00" isn't ready yet. So this race is just another stepping stone in getting better. Thanks!

I just know it's going to be another magical race for you! Can't wait to hear all about it. And, of course, gain bragging rights on my amazing prediction of your time!!

Appreciate it! At the 3:11:18 area you're definitely in the sweet spot that if things go right, you've got a high probability.

Haha true it's definitely relative. Though I still think ice and snow are way worse than humidity... I don't know how you run in that weather lol

I would take sub-30 degree days over T+D of 160s everyday. I've been pretty lucky that in 4 years of running I've only fallen once on ice and it wasn't all that bad because I didn't even realize it was happening until I was on the ground. But running in several inches of snow definitely makes more interesting running days.

Running in the cold is easy, at least as long as I'm not taking into account the mild asthma I have. You just have to put on an extra layer. The heat and humidity is unbearable if you ask me. You can only take off so much clothing before you can't take more off.

Agree!

At least not without getting arrested...

:rotfl2:

BTW, that is a very interesting thought process for your non-scientific guess.

LOL, thanks! Someone at work mentioned how her and GiGi have the same birthday (2/11) and that she was bummed they were only off by one day to Lincoln. So then it became what did Lincoln do in March that was significant. And I chose between first presidential candidacy speech on March 9th (3:09) vs assassination plot #1 on March 17th. Guess we'll see which was a better bet.

Almost there!!!!

In honor of the hilarious comments about removal of clothing...I bring you a pantless mile 2!
Mile+2.jpg


Also, don't forget to start fueling now...since it can take a Galapagos turtle up to three weeks to digest a meal #snapplefact212 :)

:donald:

LOL! I did stop eating red meat about 10 days ago because of it's elongated digestion cycle. So kind of like the turtle.

I think pantless is what @ZellyB was referring to with the getting arrested thing.

If we're talking three weeks, I'm pretty sure @DopeyBadger is a little late on starting to fuel.

:teleport: Time to go back in time and remedy that.

Is that photo from this past year's Marathon? I'm sweating and struggling to breathe just from looking at that. That was a yucky yucky day.

Anyway, @DopeyBadger I wanted to check in and wish you the best of luck on Sunday!!!

Ugh, sure looks like it. What a day...

Thanks!

That Donald is such an exhibitionist! :sad2:

Oh Donald...

Just giving Winnie the Pooh a run for his money. "Do I look fat in no pants?"

pooh:
 
I'd wish you luck on your marathon, but you don't need luck, you've done all that training! So I'll wish you good weather and great race conditions instead.

I'll be out in the woods in the middle of nowhere with no internet access during the race, but I'll be thinking of you Sunday morning. I can't wait to see the results when I return!
 
I agree ^^. No "good luck" needed! You got this! You put together an amazing training program and you nailed it. I missed the "guess @DopeyBadger time posts" due to being in WDW on vacation so I will just put in an unofficial guess of 3:18:18. I will be watching for your updates! :)
 
I'd wish you luck on your marathon, but you don't need luck, you've done all that training! So I'll wish you good weather and great race conditions instead.

I'll be out in the woods in the middle of nowhere with no internet access during the race, but I'll be thinking of you Sunday morning. I can't wait to see the results when I return!

Thanks! Weather is still looking pretty good. New race director this year but this is an old established race (year 36) so I think we should have good race conditions as well.

Enjoy your time in the woods!

I agree ^^. No "good luck" needed! You got this! You put together an amazing training program and you nailed it. I missed the "guess @DopeyBadger time posts" due to being in WDW on vacation so I will just put in an unofficial guess of 3:18:18. I will be watching for your updates! :)

Thanks! Just time for the victory lap for completing the real goal, finishing the training plan. I'll put you down unofficially at 3:18:18!
 
Here's to good race conditions, health & yes a little luck doesn't hurt either this weekend! Enjoy it too after all the training you've done!
 
2016 Lakefront Marathon - Final Carbohydrate Consumption Strategy

Day Prior
The day before the race I will attempt to follow the Western Australian Carb Loading Procedure (3rd attempt). Here is an outline:

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The plan calls for 10.3 g carbs consumed for every kilogram of body weight. My weight this morning was 156, so I will use that. This means I need to consume 730 g carbs tomorrow. About 80% of that should come in liquid form to reduce GI bulk (584.3 g). In addition, 146 g carbs should come from non-liquid sources and real meals. This means I will consume 2922 calories of carbs and need to fill in the remainder of my diet with protein and fat. I will attempt to consume 81g of protein and 8 g of fat (that's tough for me). In order to consume 584.3 g carbs in liquid form I need to consume 34 scoops of E-Gel powder which contains 17g carbs per scoop. Each scoop needs 8 oz of water. I would need to space out this consumption of carbs with no more than 4 scoops per hour to ensure my body is absorbing all of the carbs and not overloaded. This means at least 8.5 hours of drinking 32 oz of carb drink (the earlier in the day this ends the better to give my body time to absorb everything prior to the race). In theory, this will boost my muscle's capacity to store carbs by 1.9 and will give me the ability to run as fast as a 2:45 marathon. However, this just means energy shouldn't be the limiting factor, and not that I will run a 2:45 (obviously there are a few other things to running that fast).

The amount of calories being consumed is not abnormal for me and that's key because you don't want to all of the sudden flood your body with more calories then it's used to. You just want to alter the percentage of the different sources (carbs, protein, and fat). During my normal diet, I typically consumed between 3200-3700 calories per day.

Race Day

Using my current weight and estimated VO2max we can determine by body's needs for carbs on race day. In theory, because of the carb loading on the day prior I shouldn't need any carbs on race day. However, because I like the boost it gives me during the run this is my compromise for this run. I'm not fully comfortable giving up the race day nutrition yet.

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My estimate lies between 67% and 70% and thus I need to consume between 43 and 52 g carbs per hour to stave off hitting the wall.

My strategy entering race day is to eat an E-gel at the beginning (15 min prior to start), at mile 7, 14, and 21. The key to absorbing the e-gel correctly is making sure I always have enough water in the gut to do it. It takes about 0.5 oz of water to absorb 1 g of carbs on a normal day. So by consuming 37g carbs per 7 miles, I need to consume 18.5 oz water minimum between gels. Based on my normal consumption pattern of 3 oz every mile that puts me at roughly 21 oz per 7 miles and above my needed 18.5 oz water. In addition, because the weather is predicted to be relatively nice I am not concerned about needing water above and beyond for sweat purposes.

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If I consume E-gels at roughly 7 mile intervals that'll give me 44g carbs per hour.

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By comparing my in-race carb consumption to my goal VO2max, I can see by my calculations I would have enough energy to go 23.6-25.1 miles on just in-race nutrition. Combining both my pre-loading carb procedure on Saturday and my in-race nutrition strategy on Sunday, I feel confident that glycogen depletion will not be a limiting factor to my performance.
 
2016 Lakefront Marathon - Final Race Day Strategy

The Milwaukee Lakefront Marathon is a net downhill race.

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Elevation wise this is a relatively tame race. The net downhill any many areas is not noticeable while running with the exception of the beginning of the race and mile 23-24.

The race starts at 7:30am in Grafton, WI and ends in Milwaukee, WI. It runs North to South along Lake Michigan. As of the last weather prediction the wind will also be going from North to South (yea tailwind!)

My strategy:

3:45am - Wake up, drink 16 oz water, and shower
4:45am - Leave home (Cottage Grove, WI)
5:00am - Consume honey and peanut butter bagel and one banana. Drink roughly 10oz water. NO MORE WATER UNTIL E-GEL.
6:15am - Arrive in Grafton, WI
6:45am - Head to restroom for the last time
7:00am - Begin dynamic stretching and very easy 1 mile warm-up
7:15am - Consume E-Gel
7:30am - Race Starts

I'll line up next to the 3:15 pace group. My intention is for them to leave me quite quickly. The next fastest pace group is 3:25. If they catch me between mile 1-3 I'll be fine with that. As always, the goal is to start slow and build my own race. I use others as my guide to whether I am going slow enough because I want people of a similar goal time to be racing ahead of me for the first few miles (see ya ghosts!). As the race progresses, I'll slowly pick up the pace. When I reach mile 8, the fatigue level should feel similar to the fatigue of mile 1 of my 18 mile long runs during training. Once I reach mile 8, then it becomes an 18 mile long run with a fast finish at the end. Slowly increasing the pace but keeping it very comfortable until mile 16 or so. Once I'm around mile 19-21 I want to start peaking. If done correctly, these will be my fastest mile splits. Then, it's a matter of holding on for the last 4 miles. I aim to have an exaggerated U-shaped pace chart. Slow in the beginning. Dip down in the middle. Peak toward the 3/4 mark. And then the pace slowly creeps back up at the end. You could ask why not peak at the end? Well because if you're running your fastest splits at the VERY end of the race mile 23, 24, 25, then you very likely could have been running faster all along. But if your pace is starting to slip right at the end, then you really and truly went as fast as possible during the entire race.

I will attempt to run this race blind. However, they have clocks at almost every mile marker and the ones they don't they have people yelling out splits as well as predicted finishing time. My goal will be to start my watch, switch to "clock" mode, and never look at it. I'll turn up the music to drown out the pace yellers, and do my best to avoid looking at any of the clocks. But if I see any splits during the race, oh well. It's neither a positive or a negative. Just keep running my race as best I can and ignore something I can't control.

I downloaded a few trigger songs for this race:
Try Everything - Shakira (G's favorite)
Where is my money? - (G always asks this after going potty, LOL! She doesn't know the song)
Whip - (G loves the music video)
Runaway (U and I) - Galantis (AMAZING RUNNING SONG)
Chains - (Love the beat)

This race is going to be tough. I want it to be tough. I want to go as fast as my body will let me go on race day. This means I'm going "there". That place that is reserved for once a year or once every two years. That delving deep into your bodies capabilities to pull out something special. It isn't going to be easy. And thus I need mental reminders to keep me strong, to keep me pushing on, to keep me focused on the task, to keep me positive and reminding myself I DO want to do this and I WILL crush this. The following is what I'll be thinking of...

-I'll be thinking about the time someone told me I couldn't run a marathon.
-I'll be thinking about the time my coach me I was too slow and shouldn't be on the track team.
-I'll be thinking about how my friends didn't think I could do this. How I was wasting my time. How they thought my running was annoying. How they alienated me because I started running. How I haven't spoken to any of them in years.
-I'll be thinking about when I used to struggle to walk up the stairs at work. Huffing, puffing...
-I'll be thinking about when my doctor told me I needed to turn my life around otherwise I was headed to an early grave.
-I'll be thinking about my first marathon and how much of a struggle that really was.
-I'll be thinking about this past winter when I ran in -25 degrees.
-I'll be thinking about this past summer when I ran in a T+D of 165.
-I'll be thinking about how I ran in snow, lightning, rain, wind, sun, clouds, sleet, ice, birds (huh?).
-I'll be thinking about how I came up wth the most aggressive 6-day a week, no doubles, max at 2.5 hour training plan I could conceive.
-I'll be thinking about the person who stole my water bottles. And then put them back.
-I'll be thinking about bike steamer girl and our impromptu race. Vroom Vroom...
-I'll be thinking about all of those great training sessions.
-I'll be thinking about all of those awful crash and burn training sessions.
-I'll be thinking about how I get the privilege to run a race. It's a luxury.
-I'll be thinking about my jury trial. The things those people went through on a daily basis. The situations they were in. The lives they live. The deep deep sadness. The eye-opening experience that was.
-I'll be thinking about the injured running folks on here. How they would thankfully trade their "pain" for my "pain" if it meant they got to race.
-I'll be thinking about the amazing accomplishments all of you have done this past year. Massive PRs. New times. New distances. 5Ks, 10Ks, HMs, Ms, Triathlons, Ironman
-I'll be thinking about how you guys will be watching, waiting for splits, cheering me on, even though we barely know each other, you guys still care so much.
-I'll be thinking about how many weekdays I asked my MIL to stay late so I could get a run in, or come on the weekend so I could get a run in. I've got to make all this training worth those favors.
-I'll be thinking about my wife. All she has done for me in our lives, in this training session, every night making dinner, taking care of G, being an absolute rock star 24/7. Putting up with my constant training.
-Lastly and most importantly, I'll be thinking about G. I'll remind myself no matter how race day goes: good, bad, amazing, awful. When I finish the race, she'll run up to me, give me hugs and kisses, and tell me "Congratulations!" She doesn't care how it goes. She's just proud of her dad. That's why I do this. Because one day I can tell G, "Don't ever let anyone tell you, you can't do something. Set your own limits. If you want it, PROVE IT, by doing what is necessary to get it!"
 
I say boo to the nay sayers from to your list, and as I got down to the last 3, it was so touching. Family support is so important and you've got an amazing family! Add me to the people who have something in their eye! :sad:
 

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