Parks dress code?

[sam_gordon]

I do not want the kiddos subjected to that either. Is it really too much to expect at a theme parK?

Do you take the kiddos to the watermarks or public pools? Wont they "be subjected" to a lot of skin there?

 

[Lilsia]

Once upon a time WDW was a family friendly venue. Personally I don't care to see someone's crotch, pubic bone, crack or bra. (not hypothetical...been there seen it) I do not want the kiddos subjected to that either. Is it really too much to expect at a theme parK?

"Bra"? A bra offends you? That is like saying you don't like seeing a shirt on a man.

 

[MillauFr]

I am more concerned that a kid would be mowed down by an AR15 at recess than seeing too much skin at Disneyworld.

 

[Lilsia]

I am more concerned that a kid would be mowed down by an AR15 at recess than seeing too much skin at Disneyworld.

How horrible that is. And sadly, so true.

 

[JLTraveling]

Men certainly have to capacity to be offensive in their dress as well.


I am not sure where it would end. I guess I was playing devils advocate and arguing in the interest of inclusivity. That seems to be a buzz word these days but there can never be inclusivity for all. I guess that was the point that I was trying to make. To be inclusive to those who want to run around in next to nothing would be not inclusive to those of differing cultures who that would offend. Those who preach tolerance are the ones who are least tolerant of those who do not think the way that they do.

I think you have that a bit confused. Inclusivity means that the woman in the crop top and the woman in the burqa are equally welcomed at the parks. What if the woman wearing the crop top is offended by the burqa? Should it be banned?

My personal opinion? I've seen plenty of people at the parks (men and women, all shapes and sizes) in outfits that make me roll my eyes. So what? They might not like what I'm wearing either. And I typically don't give it more than half a second's thought, because I'm there to enjoy the parks not stare at strangers' clothing.

 

[lisaviolet]

I can not imagine caring so much about other people's attire.

And my childhood years were filled with tube tops, halter tops with thin tie backs and school gym attire, a la sold by the school, that resembled underwear.

Let me see if I can find that blast from the past. Can not find them. Adidas sold them too. EDIT: Found them -



And as for the ogled talk, some people do not mind being ogled.

 

[WEDcryoHEAD]

"Bra"? A bra offends you? That is like saying you don't like seeing a shirt on a man.

I would have to argue there is a considerable difference between a woman in just a bra and a man in a shirt. This is not a well reasoned argument.

 

[JaxDad]

"Bra"? A bra offends you? That is like saying you don't like seeing a shirt on a man.

 

[TLSnell1981]

Do you take the kiddos to the watermarks or public pools? Wont they "be subjected" to a lot of skin there?

Has nothing to do with seeing skin. There is a time and place for everything. It's an adult's "private" bits, pieces, cracks and crannies that I'd prefer not to be on display in a theme park. And yes I've seen it...not hypothetical or attractive.

 

[WEDcryoHEAD]

If anyone is offended, that is their problem. You don't get to force your beliefs, religious, cultural, or otherwise on anyone else. As long as it is considered legal, that is all that matters. And as everyone's grandma has said, "if you don't like it, stay home". And no, visiting a theme park is not a "right". And I don't think that you comprehend what inclusivity means. If they banned people that are covered head to toe, that would be a problem. How is this still the mentality, that others need to conform to your personal beliefs? This post is sounding like a troll post.

I agree with a lot of what you stated so clearly. As I said in an earlier post I was kind of putting this out there to see others opinions and to play a little devils advocate. I myself am not overly religious and even though I am older and would prefer that Disney enforce their dress code standards a little more stringently, just based on family atmosphere. I cannot personally dictate what others are allowed to do or not to do on private property. However the Disney Corp. can and they do have a dress code.

I do understand the arguments for inclusivity and the problem that people have with my argument that a person of a more modest nature should be able to go to the parks and enjoy them without being made uncomfortable. I get that they can simply stay home if things make them uncomfortable believe me. I get that. But I also argue that they shouldn't be forced to choose not to go and unfortunately for some cultural and religious differences and beliefs, that is the choice that has to be made. So my argument is that for those people there is no consideration made for their feelings or beliefs. Like one poster stated there will never be inclusivity that welcomes everybody. There is so much diversity that there will always be differences that just cannot be overcome.

Lastly, you stated "how is this still the mentality, that others need to conform to your personal beliefs?" I would say that looking at things from your perspective people with you beliefs on inclusivity do this same thing. There are several controversies going on in society today were lines are drawn along religious lines and those on your side of the argument basically say there is no validity to the other side of the argument. There are always two sides and there will always be one side that has the louder voices and shuts the other side down. I would just argue that we should all just listen to the other side of the argument and at least respect the opinion of those on that side, because it may be rooted in deeply held cultural or religious values. Just because you do not hold those values does not make them any less important or valid to those who do. I think Tolerance is what is most important and I would argue that my position is the more tolerant as I am not saying stay home or stop coming to the Parks I am just saying follow the dress code or Disney enforce the dress code and make the environment inclusive for all that wish to attend. You are arguing stay at home and don't tell me what to do, I don't care at all how you feel.

 

[gmi3804]

I still don't understand what "religion" has to do with any of this.

 

[BrianL]

 

[dez1978]

We always see girls / women wearing booty shorts with their butt cheeks hanging out at the parks but it's their choice so I couldn't care less about that. What I DO wish WDW would enforce is the dress code at the signature restaurants.

How does what someone is wearing affect your dining experience? Is your food not as good, or service lacking because someone else in the restaraunt is wearing park attire or a tank top? If it doesns't bother you how people are dressed at the parks, why do you care about the restaraunts? The only concerns I have about other people at a restaruant is 1, do they stink and 2, are they letting their kids run amuck, which actually does affect other people dining at a signature restaraunt.

Has nothing to do with opposition to seeing skin. There is a time and place for everything. It's an adult's "private" bits, pieces, cracks and crannies that I'd prefer not to be on display in a theme park. And yes I've seen it...not hypothetical or attractive.

I'd prefer not to see that as well, but you know what? I just look somewhere else. It's not hard.

 

[WEDcryoHEAD]

I still don't understand what "religion" has to do with any of this.

There are some, again I am not one, that have deeply held religious values that dictate modesty. I want to be clear that I am not referring to Muslims, although they do have strict modesty standards for women in their culture. I am referring to other religions that are more Anglo based. Whether you understand these religious beliefs or not, does not mean they don't exist or that they are any less valid than a belief that you might have. To those who have these beliefs, they hold themselves to a modesty code but are also made to feel uncomfortable by those who do not show modesty. I am not arguing that everyone must wear ankle length dresses or skirts and blouses that cover their entire torso like those in these religions. They would not make that argument either. They would just request that T&A for lack of a better term not be hanging out all over the place. I just feel like everyone's beliefs should be respected to a degree, not just those that each individual believes in. I try to respect the beliefs and opinions of everyone. That is why I am not shouting anyone down here or telling anyone that their opinions are not valid. I definitely see the arguments to be made on both sides of the coin. I just wish those arguing that what I am saying is anti inclusivity just be slightly more respectful of the opinions opposite of theirs.

 

[BrianL]

There are some, again I am not one, that have deeply held religious values that dictate modesty. I want to be clear that I am not referring to Muslims, although they do have strict modesty standards for women in their culture. I am referring to other religions that are more Anglo based. Whether you understand these religious beliefs or not, does not mean they don't exist or that they are any less valid than a belief that you might have. To those who have these beliefs, they hold themselves to a modesty code but are also made to feel uncomfortable by those who do not show modesty. I am not arguing that everyone must wear ankle length dresses or skirts and blouses that cover their entire torso like those in these religions. They would not make that argument either. They would just request that T&A for lack of a better term not be hanging out all over the place. I just feel like everyone's beliefs should be respected to a degree, not just those that each individual believes in. I try to respect the beliefs and opinions of everyone. That is why I am not shouting anyone down here or telling anyone that their opinions are not valid. I definitely see the arguments to be made on both sides of the coin. I just wish those arguing that what I am saying is anti inclusivity just be slightly more respectful of the opinions opposite of theirs.

There are tons of things in the world that might make someone "uncomfortable." There is no right to never be made to feel that way. If you venture out into the world then you WILL be offended quite often. The key to one's beliefs is that they apply to you and not to others. It's when you try to force them on others that there is an issue. Someone choosing to dress modestly is fine. If someone wants to make others do the same, then that is not. Conversely, someone choosing to dress more provocatively is also fine, as long as they're not trying to make everyone else also do it. That's the key difference. Some people seem to have the idea that they should never even see people who don't conform to their beliefs, which just isn't realistic and pretty offensive to those who are deemed to be going agianst said relevant beliefs.

 

[TLSnell1981]

How does what someone is wearing affect your dining experience? Is your food not as good, or service lacking because someone else in the restaraunt is wearing park attire or a tank top? If it doesns't bother you how people are dressed at the parks, why do you care about the restaraunts? The only concerns I have about other people at a restaruant is 1, do they stink and 2, are they letting their kids run amuck, which actually does affect other people dining at a signature restaraunt.

I'd prefer not to see that as well, but you know what? I just look somewhere else. It's not hard.

I can't always avoid it and some things are hard to unsee. It's especially more difficult when a small child is physically and verbally pointing it out. If I'm on a nude beach or in a strip club it's expected but not at a theme park. There is also a difference between tasteful and lewd. I suspect some are discourteous because they can be and also for the pure shock value.

 

[NannyBeBe]

"Bra"? A bra offends you? That is like saying you don't like seeing a shirt on a man.

A bra is an undergarment. A woman wearing a bra in DLR would be equivalent to a man wearing his briefs.

 

[nw6675]

How does what someone is wearing affect your dining experience? Is your food not as good, or service lacking because someone else in the restaraunt is wearing park attire or a tank top? If it doesns't bother you how people are dressed at the parks, why do you care about the restaraunts? The only concerns I have about other people at a restaruant is 1, do they stink and 2, are they letting their kids run amuck, which actually does affect other people dining at a signature restaraunt.

I'd prefer not to see that as well, but you know what? I just look somewhere else. It's not hard.

Completely agree since we are talking about a theme park resort. Not everyone has the luxury of heading back to a resort to refresh before dining and those folks who can't shouldn't be banned from a nice meal.

 

[lanejudy]

people with you beliefs on inclusivity

Inclusivity simply means not intentionally excluding. Cultural diversity means allowing different beliefs and cultures to be represented. Neither means that one culture gets to dictate to the others. You are still confused by what "inclusivity" or "cultural diversity" actually means.

To those who have these beliefs, they hold themselves to a modesty code but are also made to feel uncomfortable by those who do not show modesty.

No one is "making" them feel uncomfortable. That doesn't mean they aren't uncomfortable, but what is "making" them feel that way is their own opinions/beliefs/expectations. Get the difference? One person's choice of clothing does not directly infringe on anyone else's rights. If someone don't like seeing another's clothes, they are welcome to look away. If the world around them doesn't conform to their expectations, yes they may choose to avoid certain public locations. But again, that is on them and not on anyone else excluding them.

It doesn't really matter whether you are religious, old-fashioned, hold these beliefs, or simply wanted to stir up conversation by playing devil's advocate. The issue is not one of "inclusivity" but rather accepting others are different and learning to live in the same world despite those differences.

I honestly don't see much different at WDW than I see locally -- at Walmart or the grocery store or the public park.

 

[Kwami]

There are some, again I am not one, that have deeply held religious values that dictate modesty. I want to be clear that I am not referring to Muslims, although they do have strict modesty standards for women in their culture. I am referring to other religions that are more Anglo based.

But why should we accommodate the tastes of certain "Anglo based" religions and not Islam? If we're going to start worrying about the modesty standards for one religion, then surely we have to worry about the standards for all religions.