Parks dress code?

[focusondisney]

I guess where I am going is to say that where do the considerations begin or end for guests that may be offended by such attire based on cultural or religious beliefs?

My take on that…. They have the right to dress as they want based on their beliefs. They don’t have the right to have say how others dress so they aren’t “offended”. People could be offended by all different things, should everyone get to impose their preferences on everyone else in the park? What if someone is offended by overweight people wearing shorts or t shirts that ride up? Some religions want women covers head to toe... do they get to dictate every woman needs long sleeves, pants & a scarf? Where would it end?

 

[Kennywood]

All I know is that if you're going to put things on display, don't get mad or offended if I choose to take in the view.

 

[Karin1984]

To be fair, the dress code is intentionally vague. I thought this was going to be an argument about what's an offensive shirt, but nope. Just old fashioned policing of women's bodies.

Yes, I was more annoyed with the post in general.

If he/she just said "should the dresscode be enforced, changed or cancelled", we would have a completely different discussion.

Instead it is now a discussion "I do not like how women dress nowadays and they should adhere to my standards (but I say it is the standard of some cultures and religions)".

Does anyone want to make a bet how long this thread stays open before it gets locked?

 

[WEDcryoHEAD]

As an older male who has viewed many conversations like this over the years, I find it interesting and sad that a common theme around a thread like this is it's about how the women dress. Almost always about the outrage of women wearing this or wearing that, or not wearing this and that. I find it a bit naive and insulting.

I'm wondering how many pools they have at Disney? Way more than they have parks. Lots and lots of kids and family time at the pools...... Do folks not take their kids to the pools in the summer heat because women are wearing 2-piece swim suits? The whole conversation seems to slanted to individual perceptions of what other people should be doing or wearing. If someone at the park is wearing something you don't like, keep walking or leave. It's not likely to be different at Universal or the Tampa Zoo or Legoland......

Men certainly have to capacity to be offensive in their dress as well.

My take on that…. They have the right to dress as they want based on their beliefs. They don’t have the right to have say how others dress so they aren’t “offended”. People could be offended by all different things, should everyone get to impose their preferences on everyone else in the park? What if someone is offended by overweight people wearing shorts or t shirts that ride up? Some religions want women covers head to toe... do they get to dictate every woman needs long sleeves, pants & a scarf? Where would it end?

I am not sure where it would end. I guess I was playing devils advocate and arguing in the interest of inclusivity. That seems to be a buzz word these days but there can never be inclusivity for all. I guess that was the point that I was trying to make. To be inclusive to those who want to run around in next to nothing would be not inclusive to those of differing cultures who that would offend. Those who preach tolerance are the ones who are least tolerant of those who do not think the way that they do.

 

[RamblingMad]

Can they ban the group and family tees? You get blinded when you a see a group all wearing the same thing.

 

[RoseGold]

To be inclusive to those who want to run around in next to nothing would be not inclusive to those of differing cultures who that would offend.

Do you hear what you are saying? Your "culture" is that you control what strangers wear on someone else's property? That doesn't even make sense.

It's a free world, you can set up whatever "culture" you want in your theme park.

 

[BrianL]

Can they ban the group and family tees? You get blinded when you a see a group all wearing the same thing.

Ha ha, yeah. Matching family T's should be prohibited too! My mom made us do that on out last trip to Disneyland. I reluctantly agreed.

 

[WEDcryoHEAD]

Tolerance & inclusivity for me and mine, but not for you and your'n.

 

[RoseGold]

My kid has asked about more than a couple of the gross drinking Epcot shirts about getting sloshed with a princess or whatever. They're stupid, and I don't think they're appropriate for kids, but it's not my call and obviously Disney doesn't care. I understand that if I get on the monorail to Epcot, there's a good chance someone is wearing a stupid, alcohol-themed shirt about the monorail being the designated driver or something. I knew that, so that explanation is going to be on me.

 

[WEDcryoHEAD]

Do you hear what you are saying? Your "culture" is that you control what strangers wear on someone else's property? That doesn't even make sense.

It's a free world, you can set up whatever "culture" you want in your theme park.

So you argument is that cultural diversity isn't a thing? Just checking because seems to be what you are saying.

 

[ford family]

Some religions have much higher standards for dress and how much skin can be shown. So logically people of those religious beliefs will be offended by those who are dressed very provocatively. I am only trying to gauge if there is a standard that can be set and enforced that would allow for all to be comfortable in the parks.

I take issue with "higher" standards.
Did you mean different standards?

ford family

 

[BrianL]

My kid has asked about more than a couple of the gross drinking Epcot shirts about getting sloshed with a princess or whatever. They're stupid, and I don't think they're appropriate for kids, but it's not my call and obviously Disney doesn't care. I understand that if I get on the monorail to Epcot, there's a good chance someone is wearing a stupid, alcohol-themed shirt about the monorail being the designated driver or something. I knew that, so that explanation is going to be on me.

Yeah, I don't love those either. I know people drink at Epcot and all, but it doesn't have to be so glorified - maybe that's not the right word. That said, if it doesn't contain profanity or anything graphic, then go ahead and wear them. I'll just silently judge as usual.

 

[WEDcryoHEAD]

I take issue with "higher" standards.
Did you mean different standards?

ford family

Yes different works better.

 

[RoseGold]

So you argument is that cultural diversity isn't a thing? Just checking because seems to be what you are saying.

You can make whatever "cultural" standards you want in your theme park. Disney is private property and they set their rules. If you don't like them, you don't have to go.

It makes no sense to say you aren't "included" because you can't make rules for Disney or complete strangers.

You're excluded when your wheelchair can't make it in, or when there's no accessible seat of Flight of Passage, not when someone else is wearing clothes. Accessibility and inclusion are issues I deal with constantly with a disabled kid. Stupid arguments about other people's clothes aren't even on my radar.

 

[dez1978]

So I haven't read all the comments yet, so forgive me if I've missed someone else saying this. In my personal opinion, shorts could be a little bit longer, but it's not my bare butt touching stuff so not my problem. I would not personally be comfortable wearing what some people wear, but thats me, and I can't enforce that on anyone else. On the other hand, I think its ridiculous to wear next to nothing and think that people won't look at you. There is a difference between wearing as little as possible because it's hot vs because you want to look a certain way. Either way, idc, but if you are showing it all, people are going to look, thats just human nature. There is also a difference between looking/noticing the way someone is dressed vs staring creepily. Don't be creepy. How someone is dressed doesnt give anyone the right to objectify them or be a creep. Unless it's racist, or otherwise blatantly offensive (which is also subjective) I don't care. So basically, wear what you want, but don't expect that no one will notice or look, unless they are Duggars, in which case someone will yell Nike! and they'll all look at the ground.
Whenever my boys ask why someone is wearing something I say "Because they want to. Is it affecting your life in some way or hurting you? If not, then it's not your business"

 

[focusondisney]

I guess I was playing devils advocate and arguing in the interest of inclusivity.

“Inclusivity” doesn’t intentionally exclude anyone. It doesn’t mean…. everyone else changes to adapt to what a few want. It means everyone is welcome. If a place or situation doesn’t meet someone’s personal standards, it’s on them to remove themselves from that place. They don’t get to impose their standards/ beliefs on anyone else in the name of “inclusivity “.

 

[WEDcryoHEAD]

The point has been made. There is no such thing as inclusivity. Those who argue for inclusivity are arguing only the horse they have in the race. An argument for tolerance or inclusivity argues for intolerance and exclusivity of the opposing horse in the race. Just saying.

 

[RamblingMad]

The point has been made. There is no such thing as inclusivity. Those who argue for inclusivity are arguing only the horse they have in the race. An argument for tolerance or inclusivity argues for intolerance and exclusivity of the opposing horse in the race. Just saying.

We should ban clothes and promote positive body image. One less thing to argue about.

 

[PollyannaMom]

I know some will say if they are offended, then stay home, but they have every right to visit the parks and have a good time.

Yes, I do say that. Because WDW is not a "right" or a place anyone has to be. It is a private property, and you can absolutely choose not to go there if you are not comfortable with how people dress there.

(And I'm saying that as a woman who would absolutely not be comfortable wearing the things you are talking about. But I get to decide what I wear, not what other people wear.)

Or go when it's freezing. Problem solved.

Perfect idea!

 

[focusondisney]

Tolerance & inclusivity for me and mine, but not for you and your'n.

That seems exactly what you’re advocating. No one is saying those who dress conservatively can’t enter the park. They’re saying those people just DON’T get to tell others they have to dress the same way. Intolerance is saying those who don’t dress as I prefer can’t come in….. which seems to be what you’re advocating. That is not inclusivity.