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I really suspect Disney is going to have a problem next year before Star Wars opens. A LOT of people will be putting off trips waiting for it. You may see some very good deals next summer.

That's what I was thinking - if things are already "this bad" (obviously all relative as still more crowded than it was 20 years ago or whatever) this year when they do have Toy Story Land as new, what is next year going to be like?

Like have the gondolas, and *maybe* the Mickey Minnie Runaway Railroad open for summer?
 
However, even tho my dates line up with the offer dates, there is no availability in any resorts during my stay.

I was wondering about that - I know to start with it is normally pretty limited and only certain rooms at certain resorts for certain dates, etc.

so was wondering if this was just to remind people to think about a trip this fall vs really having a ton of available inventory leftover
 
That's what I was thinking - if things are already "this bad" (obviously all relative as still more crowded than it was 20 years ago or whatever) this year when they do have Toy Story Land as new, what is next year going to be like?

Like have the gondolas, and *maybe* the Mickey Minnie Runaway Railroad open for summer?
It won’t be ready for the summer. August at the earliest I believe. Skyliner will be though.
 
It won’t be ready for the summer. August at the earliest I believe. Skyliner will be though.

yeah, I figured not beginning but maybe part of it - and really more of as a "best case" scenario they push that to be open for summer, otherwise not much new next year
 
I really suspect Disney is going to have a problem next year before Star Wars opens. A LOT of people will be putting off trips waiting for it. You may see some very good deals next summer.

If there are actually crazy discounts for next year, we would switch our plans to go May 2020 and go next year (before Star Wars opens) and then go back in end of 2021 when everything would be open!
 
If there are actually crazy discounts for next year, we would switch our plans to go May 2020 and go next year (before Star Wars opens) and then go back in end of 2021 when everything would be open!

Okay then, I hope they aren't TOO crazy or a lot of people will be joining you! lol
 
Do you feel that way because the queues were sort of lacking? Or to what do you attribute that feeling?

It’s hard to put my finger on it...

I think the queues, especially AS2, do play a part in that feeling.

It reminded me of the Chester and Hester area in AK, just a little better.

And perhaps that’s the best they could do with the theme. I just felt it could use some plussing....
But it was enjoyable regardless.
 
It’s hard to put my finger on it...

I think the queues, especially AS2, do play a part in that feeling.

It reminded me of the Chester and Hester area in AK, just a little better.

And perhaps that’s the best they could do with the theme. I just felt it could use some plussing....
But it was enjoyable regardless.
I think this is the issue at hand. With this theme what could they have done? Sure some bigger better attractions but as for the theme itself I’m not sure what else they could do. They would have to create giant fake trees, a fence the size of a skyscraper, etc. in order for you to really feel like the size of a toy in a human world.
 
I really think people are waiting. A slow down before the Star Wars storm...

We are on our way back from another quick WDW weekend.

Thoughts on TSL:
  • Land is more attractive at night
  • SDD is a really fun family coaster
  • AS2 was surprisingly fun
  • Both rides, however seemed to lack that Disney feel. They seemed more like universal rides.
Crowds this weekend were about the lowest we’ve experienced over the last 9 months. I couldn’t believe how easy it was to navigate the parks and how low waits were. (Do not tell anyone, as next year this same weekend will be packed :) )
I'm there next week and again the last week of July. I got an email from TP that all of my days had dropped in crowd levels, some from a 9 to a 5. I'm not sure I really trust crowd calendars, but it does seem to really indicate that crowds are way down.
 
I'm there next week and again the last week of July. I got an email from TP that all of my days had dropped in crowd levels, some from a 9 to a 5. I'm not sure I really trust crowd calendars, but it does seem to really indicate that crowds are way down.
I just got an email about my December trip too showing crowd levels dropping.
 
I think this is the issue at hand. With this theme what could they have done? Sure some bigger better attractions but as for the theme itself I’m not sure what else they could do. They would have to create giant fake trees, a fence the size of a skyscraper, etc. in order for you to really feel like the size of a toy in a human world.

It also might be the fact that I couldn't help but keep staring at the Star Wars construction....that's the land we all really want, lol

I think that, especially for AS2, that they could have done a little better with the ride theme. A moving claw would have done a lot for it. But that is being really picky. DW, and all three kids absolutely loved it. So I would have to admit that WDW did its job well.
 
It also might be the fact that I couldn't help but keep staring at the Star Wars construction....that's the land we all really want, lol

I think that, especially for AS2, that they could have done a little better with the ride theme. A moving claw would have done a lot for it. But that is being really picky. DW, and all three kids absolutely loved it. So I would have to admit that WDW did its job well.

I think those are very good points. It’s one thing to intellectually know that this is a smaller land aimed at kids and isn’t meant to be as immersive or impressive as Galaxy’s Edge ..... it’s another thing when Galaxy’s Edge is right there staring at you!

I do think they could have added a bit more movement - to the claw in AS2 like you said but perhaps on the Jessie and Rex figures and stuff like that. I think that is another reason the land looks so great at night as you have all these moving lights. Activity and movement is a big thing in immersion I think
 
I'm there next week and again the last week of July. I got an email from TP that all of my days had dropped in crowd levels, some from a 9 to a 5. I'm not sure I really trust crowd calendars, but it does seem to really indicate that crowds are way down.

We have visited the magic kingdom 20 days over the last 9 months.

Yesterday was hands down the lowest crowds we have had. No bottlenecks anywhere. Parade seating on main street was pretty much wide open. At noon, peter pan had a 45 min posted wait. BTMRR at 1130 was 35 mins. Splash at 40. Even Space "only" had a 60 min wait.

The heat is real though. We live in FL, but we had to keep taking refuge in places like Tiki room and CoP. As long as you are willing to brave it, it's worth it for the low crowds.
 
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