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I did my FP's yesterday at 60 days. I got FOP for two different days. I was on at 7:00am. I wanted morning for one of them (a Monday morning in August) and could only get 2:55 at the earliest. :) But I got them! We are going to try to try in as standby in the am....it's an emh day, so we'll be there early. We're hoping to do FOP first and then Navi River.
Congrat's....so awesome!
 
Oh dear. Um. I'm not sure if it is still the case, but last time I went to WDW ADR's were a pain in the neck for getting FP. I don't remember the exact details, but I was stalking 4th or 5th FP+ and I found one that we wanted that would work for us, but the system wouldn't allow me to book it because I had and ADR like an hour later (it might have been more, I don't recall).
I mention this because it looks like you will be trying to get Pandora FP at the 30 day mark. I don't know how hard that is, but if the open time is around your ADR the system may not let you book it.
I've since switched to booking ADR's on a separate account to avoid FP collisions. I have no trouble meeting FP and ADR timelines so I don't see why Disney would restrict it in that way, but they do (or at least they did).

I've been tweaking things constantly for our trip during the first week of July. Thankfully this has not been an issue. The system does give me a message that says something like "Don't forget about your Cape May dinner at 5:30" but it does let me book the Fastpass.
 
I've been tweaking things constantly for our trip during the first week of July. Thankfully this has not been an issue. The system does give me a message that says something like "Don't forget about your Cape May dinner at 5:30" but it does let me book the Fastpass.
Thank you for the update...I was getting worried there for a minute. A reminder is great, as long as I can still book the FP...then I would have to change the reservation, right? So it will let me book the FP?
 
Thank you for the update...I was getting worried there for a minute. A reminder is great, as long as I can still book the FP...then I would have to change the reservation, right? So it will let me book the FP?
Yes, it doesn't stop you. The only thing it doesn't let you do is book 2 FP or 2 ADR that overlap. But you can overlap FP and ADR all you want. There are plenty of times where that works just fine too. Especially since FP are good for 60+ min. There are plenty of times where you can have a FP start and then have an ADR 30 min later and make both without any problems. MDE will alert you that you are doing it but it doesn't mean it won't work.
 
Dorchristen: Today was my 30 day window. I went in exactly 4 AM PST and was not able to find any FOP fast passes. I was able to get a Navi for just before noon. Just as I expected.
My first fast pass is for the Safari at 9:50 to 1050. Do you think I will be able to make it within that window after rope dropping FOP? It is for July 14 and I plan to be at the park at 7:45 AM for a 9 AM opening.

So sorry to hear you couldn't get any FOP FP's....I'm afraid this will be my situation next week when I can book at 30 days. Will u be trying every day to find one open?

If you get there that early I really think you will be fine - might not make the start of your Safari FP time, but baring the ride breaking down or something, I definitely think you would be off the ride withing 1:45 mins of the park opening
 
My FP day is fast approaching and I need some advice. I will have 3 AK FP days; one of those will be rope drop with early EMH in September (so hoping crowds will be low). We hope to hit both FoP and NRJ during that hour.

For the FPs should I get 2-FoP and 1-NRJ, or 3-FoP? I know FoP will be awesome and we'd want to ride it as much as possible but think we would also like to do another go-round at the river to see more of it (look in different directions, etc). We are 2 young adults so no concern about kids!
I just booked our FPs recently and initially set 2 FoP and one NRJ. After reviewing the wait time data I'd collected (
https://www.disboards.com/threads/o...rmation-thread.3587311/page-355#post-57726337, https://www.disboards.com/threads/o...rmation-thread.3587311/page-355#post-57726423), I changed it to 3 FoP. My reasoning:
  • NRJ seems eminently doable as standby early in the day, and especially later in the evening
  • I've heard of people getting same day FP for NRJ -- no chance of that (ok... slim-to-none) on FoP
  • To be honest, from reviews we would not be DEVASTATED to miss NRJ and could always catch it on a later trip when things die down
 
I just booked our FPs recently and initially set 2 FoP and one NRJ. After reviewing the wait time data I'd collected (
https://www.disboards.com/threads/o...rmation-thread.3587311/page-355#post-57726337, https://www.disboards.com/threads/o...rmation-thread.3587311/page-355#post-57726423), I changed it to 3 FoP. My reasoning:
  • NRJ seems eminently doable as standby early in the day, and especially later in the evening
  • I've heard of people getting same day FP for NRJ -- no chance of that (ok... slim-to-none) on FoP
  • To be honest, from reviews we would not be DEVASTATED to miss NRJ and could always catch it on a later trip when things die down
FWIW, this last week the wait times for NRJ posted were reasonable. However in my experience and talking with others in the line we all waited quite a bit longer than the posted time. That could have been a fluke, but it did seem that the wait times for NRJ were underestimated while the FOP waits were overestimated. NRJ is a pretty ride but I can see waiting until the hype dies down. I wouldn't wait more than 20-30 minutes for it.
 
FWIW, this last week the wait times for NRJ posted were reasonable. However in my experience and talking with others in the line we all waited quite a bit longer than the posted time. That could have been a fluke, but it did seem that the wait times for NRJ were underestimated while the FOP waits were overestimated. NRJ is a pretty ride but I can see waiting until the hype dies down. I wouldn't wait more than 20-30 minutes for it.
Do you happen to have the Lines app? Wonder if you've looked at it and compared their wait times with what your experience was
 
Do you happen to have the Lines app? Wonder if you've looked at it and compared their wait times with what your experience was
I looked at the posted waits on the signs and compared it to our actual waits. I talked to several guests while in lines across the park and it was a topic that came up often and we seemed to have similar stories of waiting longer than posted times at NRJ than FoP. I don't use an app other than mde, are there any that are really accurate?
 
I looked at the posted waits on the signs and compared it to our actual waits. I talked to several guests while in lines across the park and it was a topic that came up often and we seemed to have similar stories of waiting longer than posted times at NRJ than FoP. I don't use an app other than mde, are there any that are really accurate?
There is another app, Lines (Touring Plans) that uses data provided by users along with Disney's wait times, to give (supposedly) a more accurate wait time for rides. It usually gives a different times that is shown on the signs in the parks. The app shows you both
 
There is another app, Lines (Touring Plans) that uses data provided by users along with Disney's wait times, to give (supposedly) a more accurate wait time for rides. It usually gives a different times that is shown on the signs in the parks. The app shows you both
Thanks for the heads up on that. I will have to check it out!
 
FYI - to those following along what's roughly available at the 60 day mark for FOP. This morning was our FP+ booking day. I got in RIGHT at 7am --- our length of stay is 5 nights, Monday Aug 14th - Sat Aug 19th. The earliest FOP times for our AK days that i could get were, Wed August 16th - 3:55pm, and Friday August 18th 1:35pm. Will have to rope & dope NRJ or find some other opportunity to give that one a whirl.
 
Wow...never heard of this before! When was the last time this happened to you and how do you know it was because of dinning reservations?
It was December 2016. I had an ADR at The Wave which is very close to the MK. I wanted a FP for something, I think it was Big Thunder, but it doesn't really matter which. I could see the time available, but when I went to book it I got a message saying I couldn't book that because I had another thing booked. I remember thinking that not only is the FP window a whole hour long leaving plenty of time to get to The Wave, but I could have used the FP late in the window and still would have had plenty of time to walk over to the Contemporary.
I didn't have anything else booked. This was a 4th or 5th FP so it couldn't have been a FP booking that was interfering. The message might have explicitly called out the Wave reservation as the interfering appointment, but I don't remember precisely.
 
It was December 2016. I had an ADR at The Wave which is very close to the MK. I wanted a FP for something, I think it was Big Thunder, but it doesn't really matter which. I could see the time available, but when I went to book it I got a message saying I couldn't book that because I had another thing booked. I remember thinking that not only is the FP window a whole hour long leaving plenty of time to get to The Wave, but I could have used the FP late in the window and still would have had plenty of time to walk over to the Contemporary.
I didn't have anything else booked. This was a 4th or 5th FP so it couldn't have been a FP booking that was interfering. The message might have explicitly called out the Wave reservation as the interfering appointment, but I don't remember precisely.
Had to be something else going on. I've done it plenty of times, including last year. You probably got caught by the glitch bug that everyone gets at some point or another. But it's not the norm for certain.
 
I've been tweaking things constantly for our trip during the first week of July. Thankfully this has not been an issue. The system does give me a message that says something like "Don't forget about your Cape May dinner at 5:30" but it does let me book the Fastpass.
That's good to hear. I was tempted to complain at Guest Relations, but didn't bother since a different FP showed up for an earlier window that I could book.
 
I just booked our FPs recently and initially set 2 FoP and one NRJ. After reviewing the wait time data I'd collected (
https://www.disboards.com/threads/o...rmation-thread.3587311/page-355#post-57726337, https://www.disboards.com/threads/o...rmation-thread.3587311/page-355#post-57726423), I changed it to 3 FoP. My reasoning:
  • NRJ seems eminently doable as standby early in the day, and especially later in the evening
  • I've heard of people getting same day FP for NRJ -- no chance of that (ok... slim-to-none) on FoP
  • To be honest, from reviews we would not be DEVASTATED to miss NRJ and could always catch it on a later trip when things die down

The only argument against any of that I feel the standby queue for FoP is an attraction in itself and deserves to be seen at least once. Now, if you have already seen it or plan to ride FoP at least once standby on top of the 3 FP then I think your plan makes a ton of sense
 
The only argument against any of that I feel the standby queue for FoP is an attraction in itself and deserves to be seen at least once. Now, if you have already seen it or plan to ride FoP at least once standby on top of the 3 FP then I think your plan makes a ton of sense
I wasn't making an argument AGAINST doing FoP standby once -- we still plan to do that. The question was just about how to distribute 3 FP between the two rides.
 
I wasn't making an argument AGAINST doing FoP standby once -- we still plan to do that. The question was just about how to distribute 3 FP between the two rides.

ok, cool - and I meant the argument between having the 3 FP be all for FoP or having one be for the river ride ... really just wanted to encourage doing the stand by at least once is all
 
Dorchristen: Today was my 30 day window. I went in exactly 4 AM PST and was not able to find any FOP fast passes. I was able to get a Navi for just before noon. Just as I expected.
My first fast pass is for the Safari at 9:50 to 1050. Do you think I will be able to make it within that window after rope dropping FOP? It is for July 14 and I plan to be at the park at 7:45 AM for a 9 AM opening.

So sorry to hear you couldn't get any FOP FP's....I'm afraid this will be my situation next week when I can book at 30 days. Will u be trying every day to find one open?
Thanks! No, I'm just going to stick with my River ride fast pass and do flight of passage at rope drop. I think by getting there an hour and 15 minutes before the official opening time, the wait won't be too long. But I know that with your feet issues that might not work for you. Whatever you do, I hope it works out. Pixie dust to you on getting a FP.
 
The rides are open, the satuli canteen, the place to get the lumpia and drinks is open and windtraders are all open. The drum shows go on and photopass places are up and running. The rest of the park is shut down. There really is no wandering. They have blocked off all but the trail from the entrance to ak leading to Pandora. It is very cool to sit and soak in the atmosphere and lines have not been horrible the last week or so during emh.

I swear that I read on here (probably 100 pages ago) that they were keeping other rides like EE open during evening EMH as well and that it wasn't just the Pandora area. Is this not the case anymore? Was that only for crowd control during the first week or so? I was really looking forward to doing EE multiple times in a row at night.
 
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