Inconsiderate Cruisers

[truck1]

OMG you people are cracking me up. Are you really that bothered by how someone positions there knife and fork, how they stack their plates, what they wear to dinner. I never notice any of this. I work the hardest customer service job in the world, and none of this would bother me. I'm so happy to be on a vacation I could care less if a kid drops an ice cream cone on my head. I guess it's all about perspective.

It doesn't bother me how some one leaves their plate or forks etc. What bothers me is the lack of manners and simple rule following. We were in Palos one night and I want to say we were leaving. Another group came in and the Maitre D made them put on a shirt and tie before he would let them in. Same thing with the MDR. If the rule at the time says, NO SHORTS, how hard is it to put a pair of pants on for a few nights? (granted there are exceptions its the Ill do what I want on vacation crowds that annoy me) Signs that say DO NOT CROSS. That applies to every one else. Is it really that hard to follow simple rules or requests?

 

[PrincessShmoo]

It doesn't bother me how some one leaves their plate or forks etc. What bothers me is the lack of manners and simple rule following. We were in Palos one night and I want to say we were leaving. Another group came in and the Maitre D made them put on a shirt and tie before he would let them in. Same thing with the MDR. If the rule at the time says, NO SHORTS, how hard is it to put a pair of pants on for a few nights? (granted there are exceptions its the Ill do what I want on vacation crowds that annoy me) Signs that say DO NOT CROSS. That applies to every one else. Is it really that hard to follow simple rules or requests?

Exactly!

 

[Ofinn]

It doesn't bother me how some one leaves their plate or forks etc. What bothers me is the lack of manners and simple rule following. We were in Palos one night and I want to say we were leaving. Another group came in and the Maitre D made them put on a shirt and tie before he would let them in. Same thing with the MDR. If the rule at the time says, NO SHORTS, how hard is it to put a pair of pants on for a few nights? (granted there are exceptions its the Ill do what I want on vacation crowds that annoy me) Signs that say DO NOT CROSS. That applies to every one else. Is it really that hard to follow simple rules or requests?

Shorts are allowed in the MDR???? I honestly never notice any of the things you complain about. I guess I'm just to busy enjoying my vacation to care. I think if I got annoyed by every little thing someone does I would just stay home.

 

[C6PT7]

OMG you people are cracking me up. Are you really that bothered by how someone positions there knife and fork, how they stack their plates, what they wear to dinner. I never notice any of this. I work the hardest customer service job in the world, and none of this would bother me. I'm so happy to be on a vacation I could care less if a kid drops an ice cream cone on my head, someone cuts in line...who cares. I guess it's all about perspective.

Respectfully,
Unless your job is to tell parents of a child with a life threatening illness that their medical coverage is ending and will no longer be paid for, or telling injured service men and women that they should try for medicaid coverage for their treatment, I doubt you have the worst customer service job in the world.
If you have that job I apologize. I can't think of any worse job in the world than those.

 

[Ofinn]

Respectfully,
Unless your job is to tell parents of a child with a life threatening illness that their medical coverage is ending and will no longer be paid for, or telling injured service men and women that they should try for medicaid coverage for their treatment, I doubt you have the worst customer service job in the world.
If you have that job I apologize. I can't think of any worse job in the world than those.

Well I'm a nurse so I have had to tell people a lot worse things than that. Try telling a parent their child is dead. I actually think I have one of the best customer service jobs in the world. It just really sucks sometimes. One thing it has given me is a lot of tolerance for other people that's why I find this thread to kind of...I really don't know the word for it.

 

[truck1]

Shorts are allowed in the MDR???? .

They are now. Why you might ask? Simple. Too many people were doing it anyway, and DCL never enforced their own rule. It was easier to change it to shorts are allowed then to tell someone, go change. Couple of mouse clicks, and some tapping on a keyboard took care of that. Some of us look at an MDR like 5 star dining, even if its not. Its a chance to do something that you don't normally do. Plus having pics that night helps. Its part my upbringing. My parents and grandparents have always told me to dress the part and its something I'm trying to pass on to my kids. A person shouldnt walk into a job interview looking like you just got out of bed. So why would they go to dinner in a somewhat nice restaurant like you just got out of a gym?



Are there dress codes or guidelines regarding dressing for dinner?

A.
In general, most onboard dining locations are "cruise casual,” so casual attire, such as shorts and T-shirts, is permitted, with the exception of swimwear and tank tops. Most cruises have special theme nights that provide opportunities to dress up for a one-of-a-kind family photo. Here's a breakdown of special dress events by cruise itinerary:

3-night cruises:

• One cruise casual night—no swimwear or tank tops
• One pirate night themed deck party
• One optional “dress-up night"—jacket for men, dress or pantsuit for women

4-night cruises:

• First night is cruise casual—no swimwear or tank tops
• One pirate night themed deck party
• One optional dress-up night—jacket for men, dress or pantsuit for women
• Final night is cruise casual—no swimwear or tank tops

7-night cruises:

• First night is cruise casual—no swimwear or tank tops
• One pirate night or other themed deck party
• 3 additional cruise casual nights—no swimwear or tank tops
• One formal and one semi-formal night—both give you the opportunity to dress up and take advantage of the onboard photography services. Though optional, we recommend dress pants with a jacket or a suit for men, and dress or pantsuit for women

 

[Sytrace]

Well I'm a nurse so I have had to tell people a lot worse things than that. Try telling a parent their child is dead. I actually think I have one of the best customer service jobs in the world. It just really sucks sometimes. One thing it has given me is a lot of tolerance for other people that's why I find this thread to kind of...I really don't know the word for it.

You have my respect and gratitude in regards to your challenging job. Being in such a position requires being strong of heart and mind as well as a desire to help people in the worst situations they are encountering with grace and love. Many blessings.

 

[Skiton]

OMG you people are cracking me up. Are you really that bothered by how someone positions there knife and fork, how they stack their plates, what they wear to dinner. I never notice any of this. I work the hardest customer service job in the world, and none of this would bother me. I'm so happy to be on a vacation I could care less if a kid drops an ice cream cone on my head, someone cuts in line...who cares. I guess it's all about perspective.

Yes and no. I'm not "bothered" by it in the sense that I peer around the dining room trying to see who's doing what or cluck disapprovingly if someone else has less than perfect table manners, but I do care about it in terms what I myself do and what I teach my kids to do. It's etiquette.

 

[Weedy]

It's everywhere. Rally loud music??
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/video/caught-on-camera-airplane-brawl/vi-AAgDgQY

 

[RedSox68]

After 16 cruises on Disney, Princess, Hal, Carnival and NCL, I can tell you that the Disney ships are the only ones I've seen with this extent of behavior. It seems when these type of people board the Disney ships, they leave all manners, courtesy, social behavior and common sense at home! These are probably the same people who also let everyone else onboard babysit their kids while they have an adult vacation! I've never seen the volume of messiness and thoughtless behavior on the other cruise lines like I've seen on Disney! I'm sure much of it is kids leaving their stuff wherever they want because they're not told to pick up after themselves. I like the previous poster's comment about what must these peoples homes look like! We have a sign at work that reads "your mother doesn't work here -- clean up after yourself"!

 

[wcw57]

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[JW9DVC]

I do get the vacation mode of life. Some here though would say that leaving your tray in the hall is so absurd and so rude. What were they thinking?

Well maybe they were thinking that they called to have it picked up and placed it in hallway, so they are not disturbed for a vacation nap or verandah club outing.

Wait until you get a look at me on vacation, oh wait. Many here are "perfect angels", I keep forgetting.

I agree. We all paid a boat load, yes a ship full of cash. We probably all feel entitled one way or another. I usually just go with the flow, as long as it doesn't get me arrested.

So if you are one that stands in a single line at Cabanas, go ahead. It's not designed that way. Not everyone eats a salad or wants one on vacation. That's the first one I skip. Oh the looks I have received. Yet, many don't understand. It's not one line. Each station has a line, sometimes they are so close. Or because someone thought it should be. Vent over, for a little.

JW

 

[Jillikins]

Back on theme of inconsiderate cruisers: we were on the Fantasy a few weeks ago. I had posted here several times about the fact that my 6-yo ASD kid really wanted to see the new Star Wars movie, but he has a lot of trouble with loud noises, dark places, etc. I was looking for advice as to whether it would be shown in the rooms or not, etc. As it turned out, it was only playing in the theaters, so we decided to try to see it in the afternoon in the Buena Vista theater so we could see the 2D version (not wanting to add the 3D experience on top of his other challenges.)

We arrived at the theater 30 minutes in advance and chose seats in the last row in the first section - the row that has multiple breaks in it. In many theaters, these seats are reserved for wheelchair access, but the BV theater seats are not marked that way. We sat in in the middle of the theater next to an aisle so that I could leave if my son needed to get out of the theater. My 10-yo nephew was with us and he had to sit across the aisle from us.

About 3 minutes before the movie started this huge family - probably 11 people - came in with their grandmother in a wheelchair. They parked the wheelchair between my seat and my nephew's seat and they told him to move so someone could sit next to the grandmother. I objected, and said, "he's with us ..." and the wheelchair lady's ~50-yo son said, "he can move. We need this seat." I tried to see if there was a space my nephew could move to in front of us to try to help them, but although the seats in front of us were empty, they were being saved for someone else and they wouldn't let him sit there. (that's another annoyance, but whatever)

Ultimately I stood my ground and said that he needed to stay in his seat since I wasn't about to let a 10-yo boy sit in the dark far away from me next to a stranger, and they got really angry and said "We're going to talk to the manager." (to which I was thinking, "good luck with that") The whole family then proceeded to stand behind us, talking in Spanish about me, pointing at me, and talking about how rude *I* was being for not letting their grandmother sit there. Note that I hadn't ever said *she* couldn't have her chair there, I just didn't want my nephew moved.

I understand enough Spanish to know what was going on, and I even tried to explain to one of the family members that we had arrived early to ensure we had the seats we needed because of my own kid's special needs. The guy was super rude to me and they just continued to complain about me until the movie started. Even after the movie, they still gave me dirty looks all the way out of the theater.

It was really upsetting to me - I was hyped on adrenaline for the first half of the movie and couldn't hardly enjoy it. My husband was embarrassed by the whole scene and couldn't enjoy the movie either. Luckily the kids enjoyed the movie a lot - even my ASD kid enjoyed it though he wore my noise-cancelling headphones and had to hide during the scarier scenes.

 

[MUN]

Back on theme of inconsiderate cruisers: we were on the Fantasy a few weeks ago. I had posted here several times about the fact that my 6-yo ASD kid really wanted to see the new Star Wars movie, but he has a lot of trouble with loud noises, dark places, etc. I was looking for advice as to whether it would be shown in the rooms or not, etc. As it turned out, it was only playing in the theaters, so we decided to try to see it in the afternoon in the Buena Vista theater so we could see the 2D version (not wanting to add the 3D experience on top of his other challenges.)

We arrived at the theater 30 minutes in advance and chose seats in the last row in the first section - the row that has multiple breaks in it. In many theaters, these seats are reserved for wheelchair access, but the BV theater seats are not marked that way. We sat in in the middle of the theater next to an aisle so that I could leave if my son needed to get out of the theater. My 10-yo nephew was with us and he had to sit across the aisle from us.

About 3 minutes before the movie started this huge family - probably 11 people - came in with their grandmother in a wheelchair. They parked the wheelchair between my seat and my nephew's seat and they told him to move so someone could sit next to the grandmother. I objected, and said, "he's with us ..." and the wheelchair lady's ~50-yo son said, "he can move. We need this seat." I tried to see if there was a space my nephew could move to in front of us to try to help them, but although the seats in front of us were empty, they were being saved for someone else and they wouldn't let him sit there. (that's another annoyance, but whatever)

Ultimately I stood my ground and said that he needed to stay in his seat since I wasn't about to let a 10-yo boy sit in the dark far away from me next to a stranger, and they got really angry and said "We're going to talk to the manager." (to which I was thinking, "good luck with that") The whole family then proceeded to stand behind us, talking in Spanish about me, pointing at me, and talking about how rude *I* was being for not letting their grandmother sit there. Note that I hadn't ever said *she* couldn't have her chair there, I just didn't want my nephew moved.

I understand enough Spanish to know what was going on, and I even tried to explain to one of the family members that we had arrived early to ensure we had the seats we needed because of my own kid's special needs. The guy was super rude to me and they just continued to complain about me until the movie started. Even after the movie, they still gave me dirty looks all the way out of the theater.

It was really upsetting to me - I was hyped on adrenaline for the first half of the movie and couldn't hardly enjoy it. My husband was embarrassed by the whole scene and couldn't enjoy the movie either. Luckily the kids enjoyed the movie a lot - even my ASD kid enjoyed it though he wore my noise-cancelling headphones and had to hide during the scarier scenes.

Wow! That's horrible. On the bright side, you didn't miss much with the film, it isn't very good. Your son enjoyed it and that's what matters.

MUN

 

[Jillikins]

Wow! That's horrible. On the bright side, you didn't miss much with the film, it isn't very good. Your son enjoyed it and that's what matters.

MUN

Awww, hey now, I loved the movie. I had already seen it twice, but it was my kids' first time seeing it. I was originally so excited to be able to see it with them, too - they are 6-yo twins and both big SW fans.

 

[MUN]

Awww, hey now, I loved the movie. I had already seen it twice, but it was my kids' first time seeing it. I was originally so excited to be able to see it with them, too - they are 6-yo twins and both big SW fans.

I was just trying to make you feel better. I saw it on the ship, but I waited for a rainy afternoon to watch it. I'm glad I got to see it on the ship for "free".

 

[DCLDVC1]

We were in Palos one night and I want to say we were leaving. Another group came in and the Maitre D made them put on a shirt and tie before he would let them in.

That's interesting since ties aren't required in Palo.

 

[truck1]

That's interesting since ties aren't required in Palo.

This was a while ago, and it could be that the manager was making a point, or I thought he said tie. I know they were turned away for not wearing the appropriate clothes, and Ive seen it mentioned on the board a few times.

 

[C6PT7]

Well I'm a nurse so I have had to tell people a lot worse things than that. Try telling a parent their child is dead. I actually think I have one of the best customer service jobs in the world. It just really sucks sometimes. One thing it has given me is a lot of tolerance for other people that's why I find this thread to kind of...I really don't know the word for it.

That job definitely qualifies.

 

[Jennifer777]

OMG you people are cracking me up. Are you really that bothered by how someone positions there knife and fork, how they stack their plates, what they wear to dinner. I never notice any of this. I work the hardest customer service job in the world, and none of this would bother me. I'm so happy to be on a vacation I could care less if a kid drops an ice cream cone on my head, someone cuts in line...who cares. I guess it's all about perspective.

Most of those things don't bother me because what other people choose to wear or do in their own space doesn't typically impact me or my family at all. What does bother me, and thankfully I have had very few of these experiences, is when others do something that DOES infringe upon our experience. Like when you wait 30 minutes in line (not easy with a young child) and someone comes along and jumps in front of you, increasing your wait time even more. Pushing to get to the front of the theater, which can cause injury to others as a PP mentioned, or allowing your unattended toddler to drip ice cream all over the pool deck where people are stepping in it and all over people's legs and personal property that is very inconsiderate to the people who now have to walk around on their vacation with a swollen ankle or spend time cleaning themselves and their belongings because of a mess someone else's child made. When you have thousands of people in a fairly confined space, there would be chaos if people didn't show others basic common courtesy. The rules maintain order and create fairness for all passengers so not following them has the opposite effect. Reading through this thread it could seem like these things are happening all the time but the fact that there are so few altercations on board shows that the majority of passengers do respect others and do follow the rules on the ship. It's just those few who are either oblivious or just don't care about how their actions impact others around them I believe most on this thread are talking about. The good news is that I have experienced so many acts of kindness where other cruisers have gone out of their way to be friendly or offer my family assistance in some way that if there was a thread about 'considerate cruisers' I think it would be twice as long. <3