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The Non-Cancelled Marathon Weather Report - 3 days to go!

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Start at 7am and end at 10am
4/21/21 - T+D of 82-90, 60% cloudy, 24% chance of rain, 9mph WNW wind
4/22/21 - T+D of 86-98, 44% cloudy, 11% chance of rain, 6mph SSW wind
4/23/21 - T+D of 84-95, 43% cloudy, 18% chance of rain, 7mph SSW wind
4/24/21 - T+D of 85-96, 51% cloudy, 10% chance of rain, 10mph WSW wind
4/25/21 - T+D of 85-97, 36% cloudy, 7% chance of rain, 7mph SSW wind
4/26/21 - T+D of 73-84, 27% cloudy, 1% chance of rain, 6mph SSW wind
4/27/21 - T+D of 85-100, 64% cloudy, 7% chance of rain, 12mph SSW wind
4/28/21 - T+D of 77-98, 64% cloudy, 1% chance of rain, 16mph SSW wind

LOL, now we're splitting the difference. We've got the cool weather in the morning, and a rising temps lower clouds as the race proceeds. The wind is increasing as well. Although given the direction, I don't see it being that much of a problem.
 
The Non-Cancelled Marathon Strategy

Carb loading


On Friday, I plan to follow my modified Western Australian carb loading procedure. The goal is to take in approximately 11-12 grams of carbs/kilogram body weight. I haven't weighed myself in months. Steph is going to weigh me Friday morning, but I'm not going to look. I'll record it for record keeping purposes. Sometimes that number gets in my head. But I'm guessing I'm in the 175-180 range based on how my clothes are fitting. So 180 pounds is 81.6 kg. So if I aim for 11-12g/kg bw, then I'm looking to be around 900-980 grams carbs.

So instead of 80% of my carbs being sourced from liquid sources, I will instead get about 50% of my carbs from liquid sources and continue to eat almost normally. The goal is to eat at least 11 g carbs/kg body weight as I did in November/January 2020. I had no ill effects from this strategy prior and felt absolutely great on race day. So early Saturday morning, I will get in my 20 min run w/ strides. I'll drink chocolate milk and Maurten 320. I'll continue to drink Maurten 320 throughout the day aiming for 5-6 total packages. For breakfast, lunch, and dinner I'll eat somewhat normally. I'll drink extra water to thirst and drink 1-2 Liquid IV throughout the day. The 6 Maurten packages would be 480 grams. My dinner is 100 grams per the Hello Fresh recipe. My chocolate milk is 60 grams. My double rice packs at lunch is 160 grams. And my breakfast is around 50 or so carbs. So in total, that's 850 grams. A few snacks here and there will get me to the 980 gram goal.

Race Morning Nutrition

On Saturday morning, I will drink 16-24oz of Liquid IV around 4:30am (approximately 2 hours before my last opportunity for the bathroom around 6:30am). I will eat my PB sandwich around 4:30am as well. I'll drink Maurten 320 about 15 min prior to race start (6:45am).

In-Race Nutrition and Hydration

As for fueling during the race, I'm planning the following:

minus 15 min - Maurten 320
45 min - Tailwind Concentrate
60 min - Maurten Caff gel
75 min - Egel
105 min - Tailwind Concentrate
120 min - Maurten Caff gel
135 min - Egel
165 min - Tailwind Concentrate

There are no aid stations on the course. So Steph will be near the mid-point of the race to pass off water to me. To keep the timing as normal as possible, we plan to do the following:

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We bought 20oz plastic sport bottles. Not my favorite choice, but I don't know how disposal is going to go yet.

Race Pace Strategy

Admittedly, I've had a tough time nailing down a pacing strategy I like. I look at historical HR data for marathons (145-151) and see what I've done in training to suggest something in the 7:00 min/mile range is doable. Conversely, I look at my pretty high correlation between my Garmin VO2max value and my VDOT race performance which suggests something a bit slower. I think I'm going to play this one conservatively. The course offers a unique opportunity being an out/back four times course. Which means in essence I get four laps of the same course.

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My Garmin VO2max was a 57 at the end of last week. It never got higher than a 57 despite my disagreement with the output. Given the current weather projections, a healthy marathon finish will be between a delta of 6-7. So that puts me between a 3:07:30-3:10:45 or a 7:09-7:16 min/mile. My PR is a 3:14:05 and 7:24 min/mile.

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The course design is simple. The grade adjusted pacing is zero. https://www.strava.com/activities/4015398377/overview

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Although there is a tiny bit of GAP on the out and back. But all in all, the variance is negligible. So I will treat the out and back equally.

In training, my body seems to take about 4-6 miles before it really settles in. So I want to be conservative on the first lap. I think I'll aim for 7:20 pace with a 48:02 lap goal. The second lap I'll drop to the low end of my marathon projected pace towards a 7:15 with a 47:30 lap goal and 1:35:31 HM checkpoint. That would be my second fastest of my 15 marathons (Lakefront 2017 was a 1:33:32 and Disney 2018 was a 1:35:46). I should have a pretty good idea how the day is going to go by this point. If things are still feeling easy, then I'll work my way down to the high end pace zone of a 7:10 min/mile and lap of 46:57 (2:22:28 split). This will put me at Mile 19.65. Based on all previous 14 marathons, the inflection point of when my pace begins to fall off is around Mile 18-22. So this is when I will put my complete effort into the final lap. If this goes anything like the Madison November 2020 HM, then while my effort will increase significantly, my pace will not move by much. So I think I'll either hopefully maintain pace (7:10 and 47 min lap) or drop down by about 10s per mile to a 7:00 (46 min lap). This would put my final finish time at between 3:08:30 to 3:09:30. It would also essentially split the difference between my 3:07:30-3:10:45 projection. My hope is that the rush of being a Pac-Man will carry me through the finish line.

Maybe this ends up being too conservative. I can live with that. Even a 3:09 would still represent a PR after 3.5 years of failed attempts. Alternatively, if it ends up being too aggressive, then we'll see that in the last lap. If I can't maintain or increase pace the last lap, then it's hard to say I could have gone faster during the first three laps and done better.

The legs have felt very fresh during the first mile of last Sunday's LR and yesterday's 2x5 min M Tempo workout. Yesterday I was doing a 8:00 min/mile for the first mile and it literally felt like I was walking. Things admittedly got tougher once the M Tempo started and the T+D of 131 did me no favors. Afterwards, my quad area near my knees was protesting again like Disney 2020. Nothing a little ice didn't solve though. Taper Madness is a killer. It's all in my head.

So my final prediction is a 3:09:01.
 


Hmmmm.....do we get to change our guesses? I'm thinking I underestimated your performance.

Yes, you can change your guess. However, for the purposes of the tiebreaker (earliest guess wins), if you change your guess the timestamp becomes your edit/new post. Although with the number of players, I find the likelihood of a tie pretty small. You have until the end of today to change your guess.

LOL...I was thinking the same thing. My guess is way out from that analysis :rolleyes1

To be fair, there are many reasons a 3:07-3:10 marathon might not happen despite what the data says (or is being currently interpreted to say).

-Prior to Disney 2020, some data said a 2:50 was possible. Other data said 3:05-3:10, I ended up with a 3:35 because of the quad injury.
-Prior to Chicago 2018, I guessed a 3:14. I ran a 3:41.
-Prior to Dopey 2018, I guessed a 3:08-3:22 (middle was 3:15). I ran a 3:15:59.
-Prior to Lakefront 2017, I guessed a 2:57-3:04. I ran a 3:14:05.
-Prior to Dopey 2017, I guessed a 3:19:41 (based on running a HM the day prior). I ran a 3:20:52 without the HM the day prior.
-Prior to Lakefront 2016, I set my training plan based on a 3:18 finish, and prior to the race I guessed a 3:13, and then ran a 3:23.

If we're being honest, the "data" says I run a 3:03:30 (based on a 7 min/mile M Tempo at a 148 HR). But outside of injured races, I was usually 10 min off. So that would be a 3:13:30 instead. There is a wide range of possibilities.
 


I like your pacing strategy. Start conservatively and then turn on your after burners with a fast 10k! Is this your "A" race?

Yes, this is a max effort “A” race. My only other race that I have signed up for is Hot2Trot HM in June (Fathers day). But the weather is always hot for that one so it’s a definite “B” or “C” race. Haven’t decided how to play it yet. Depending on how Saturday goes will dictate the Fall schedule. Either want to do mile training again and give that another go, or look towards the November Madison HM or M.
 
To be fair, there are many reasons a 3:07-3:10 marathon might not happen despite what the data says (or is being currently interpreted to say).

-Prior to Disney 2020, some data said a 2:50 was possible. Other data said 3:05-3:10, I ended up with a 3:35 because of the quad injury.
-Prior to Chicago 2018, I guessed a 3:14. I ran a 3:41.
-Prior to Dopey 2018, I guessed a 3:08-3:22 (middle was 3:15). I ran a 3:15:59.
-Prior to Lakefront 2017, I guessed a 2:57-3:04. I ran a 3:14:05.
-Prior to Dopey 2017, I guessed a 3:19:41 (based on running a HM the day prior). I ran a 3:20:52 without the HM the day prior.
-Prior to Lakefront 2016, I set my training plan based on a 3:18 finish, and prior to the race I guessed a 3:13, and then ran a 3:23.

If we're being honest, the "data" says I run a 3:03:30 (based on a 7 min/mile M Tempo at a 148 HR). But outside of injured races, I was usually 10 min off. So that would be a 3:13:30 instead. There is a wide range of possibilities.

To be fair, more recently I've been using the whole VO2max-6 points. Sept 2019

-Prior to DoLittle HM 2019, I guessed a 1:35:02 based on a T+D of 130 being a delta 8 and VO2max of 56. I ran a 1:34:57.
-Prior to Madison HM 2020, I guessed a 1:28:56 based on a sub-100 T+D, a delta of 6.5 from a VO2max of 58. I chose 6.5 because I had been bouncing between a 58 and 59 VO2max. So this marked the middle of the two with an aim at a delta of 6. I ran a 1:28:40.

In both of those cases, the pace definitely felt right. I liked how those races went from a pacing perspective as well. So to give the same treatment. My VO2max has been bouncing between 56-57, the T+D is sub-100, and 6.5 from 56 would be 49.5 which is a 3:12:22. A 6.5 from 57 would be a 3:09:07.
 
The Non-Cancelled Marathon Weather Report - 2 days to go!

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Start at 7am and end at 10am
4/21/21 - T+D of 82-90, 60% cloudy, 24% chance of rain, 9mph WNW wind
4/22/21 - T+D of 86-98, 44% cloudy, 11% chance of rain, 6mph SSW wind
4/23/21 - T+D of 84-95, 43% cloudy, 18% chance of rain, 7mph SSW wind
4/24/21 - T+D of 85-96, 51% cloudy, 10% chance of rain, 10mph WSW wind
4/25/21 - T+D of 85-97, 36% cloudy, 7% chance of rain, 7mph SSW wind
4/26/21 - T+D of 73-84, 27% cloudy, 1% chance of rain, 6mph SSW wind
4/27/21 - T+D of 85-100, 64% cloudy, 7% chance of rain, 12mph SSW wind
4/28/21 - T+D of 77-98, 64% cloudy, 1% chance of rain, 16mph SSW wind
4/29/21 - T+D of 80-103, 45% cloudy, 3% chance of rain, 18mph SSW wind

Temps are good. Somewhat cloudy. Some serious wind though. Although I think the direction of the race will help make this manageable. Nothing I haven't dealt with before.
 
20 runners in my age division.
-Two have PRs way better than mine (2:33 and 2:50).
-Another has a PR better than me (3:01), but most other races aren't as good.
-One equally matched runner.
-Two other runners in the 3:20s.
-Two other runners with no data to be found.

So it'll take a good effort from me to snag 3rd place. With the looped course design, I can hopefully spot these other guys and the potential chase/stay ahead. Keeping in mind the wave start.

I also added "lap HR" and "average HR" to my data screens. I typically like to stay blind to most things, but I trust the data and know what it's suppose to feel like given it's my 15th marathon. So I'll use the HR information as a guardrail of sorts if I'm getting too aggressive/conservative.
 
The Non-Cancelled Marathon Weather Report - Tomorrow!

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Start at 7am and end at 10am
4/21/21 - T+D of 82-90, 60% cloudy, 24% chance of rain, 9mph WNW wind
4/22/21 - T+D of 86-98, 44% cloudy, 11% chance of rain, 6mph SSW wind
4/23/21 - T+D of 84-95, 43% cloudy, 18% chance of rain, 7mph SSW wind
4/24/21 - T+D of 85-96, 51% cloudy, 10% chance of rain, 10mph WSW wind
4/25/21 - T+D of 85-97, 36% cloudy, 7% chance of rain, 7mph SSW wind
4/26/21 - T+D of 73-84, 27% cloudy, 1% chance of rain, 6mph SSW wind
4/27/21 - T+D of 85-100, 64% cloudy, 7% chance of rain, 12mph SSW wind
4/28/21 - T+D of 77-98, 64% cloudy, 1% chance of rain, 16mph SSW wind
4/29/21 - T+D of 80-103, 45% cloudy, 3% chance of rain, 18mph SSW wind
4/30/21 - T+D of 77-96, 68% cloudy, 3% chance of rain, 18mph SSW wind

Final weather projection has near ideal temps, no rain, somewhat cloudy, and high winds. Yesterday the wind was so bad that us and a few other cars almost crashed into each other.
 

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