Can they do that without creating a different room category? If it is part of the existing association and its a lake view studio, doesnt it have to be the same points?I'm going with slightly more expensive (I think within $5-10/pt) and a higher chart on those studios than the current studios.
Since VGF2 represents new points, I believe they can create whatever room categories they want.Can they do that without creating a different room category? If it is part of the existing association and its a lake view studio, doesnt it have to be the same points?
They would just have to create a different room category. Really that would be simple to create, it just depends if they want to do it or not. But yeah, if they just call it a lake view studio it would have the same point requirements as the VGF1 studios do.Can they do that without creating a different room category? If it is part of the existing association and its a lake view studio, doesnt it have to be the same points?
I am in the same mind frame as you on this. I think they will increase RIV base pricing but also increase RIV incentives. VGF will open at the same base price as RIV, but with a different incentive setup.The more I read, the more it makes sense for VGF2 to open at the same price as Riviera and Aulani.
Can they do that without creating a different room category? If it is part of the existing association and its a lake view studio, doesnt it have to be the same points?
My guess is VGF2, RIV, AUL will all be around $210 to $220 early next year, although each will have different incentives.I am in the same mind frame as you on this. I think they will increase RIV base pricing but also increase RIV incentives. VGF will open at the same base price as RIV, but with a different incentive setup.
Got it and that is what I thought. If DVC created a new room category for a new studio type that was more points that the ones at the existing VGF, and by default INCREASED demand on that small number of studios (at the current building) that would be a big ******* from DVC to the existing VGF owners.Yes it likely would be but many are looking at the different name of the accommodation and short build out time as a sign that it will be a different type of room and different category. Just have to wait and see. It is easier for DVC to keep things consistent.
They would just have to create a different room category. Really that would be simple to create, it just depends if they want to do it or not. But yeah, if they just call it a lake view studio it would have the same point requirements as the VGF1 studios do.
Excellent point....might cause a lot of current VGF owners that rely on studios to be doing some add ons!Is overlooking the pool a "standard" view? I think this points to at least a creation of a Pool View and Lake View being used at the new building. They can then set that Pool View how they would like for points possibly being closer to Lake View than it is Standard View.
If they are below $200 per point, I’d seriously consider adding on, even though VGF is not high on my list as a home resort.so...who's buying/what is your price limit? I own direct points at Riviera and would love a small direct contract (50-60) for a small studio trip at GFV during the fall timeframe every other year. At the size we are looking at, PPP isn't hugely impactful, but I don't think I'd buy if it opens at the current direct price
They would just have to create a different room category. Really that would be simple to create, it just depends if they want to do it or not. But yeah, if they just call it a lake view studio it would have the same point requirements as the VGF1 studios do.
I will buy 200 points if they are around $200pp after incentives. I plan on selling my fairly recently purchased 175 point SSR contract and using that money towards the VGF points. Wife and I like the different Run Disney events so a studio for the two of us at VFG works out great. Then of course we take big family trips and we can do split stays in 1BR, or whatever we decide. My other thought is I feel really good about VGF points going up in value over the long term so I have flexibility moving forward after VGF2 sells out. If I buy it will be during the presale because that will be the very best price that direct will offer.so...who's buying/what is your price limit? I own direct points at Riviera and would love a small direct contract (50-60) for a small studio trip at GFV during the fall timeframe every other year. At the size we are looking at, PPP isn't hugely impactful, but I don't think I'd buy if it opens at the current direct price
At AKV-Jambo, BCV, CCV, and BRV, overlooking the pool is the standard view.Is overlooking the pool a "standard" view? I think this points to at least a creation of a Pool View and Lake View being used at the new building. They can then set that Pool View how they would like for points possibly being closer to Lake View than it is Standard View.
I was going to buy VGF resale, but if VGF2 comes in at about $210-$220 per point (where I think RIV & AUL will be next year), I'm buying direct.If they are below $200 per point, I’d seriously consider adding on, even though VGF is not high on my list as a home resort.
Disney needs to sell 100,000 VGF points per month. I just don't see them being close to that volume at $225pp or higher. I really do think $220pp is the limit for early 2022.
Another thing to consider.
Disney can quickly increase the direct VGF2 price if the first month of sales is stronger than expected, but they absolutely do not want to drop the price if sales are weak.
That precedent would only discourage future DVC buyers. (“Did you know Disney dropped prices before?”)
No, Disney needs to start VGF2 at a price where sales are strong, and then work their way up from there.
It’s easy to increase price if early sales are strong. It’s a disaster if early sales are weak.
Note that this does not mean VGF2 will have the same incentives as RIV or AUL, only that their base prices will start off as the same.