I have Aulani points expiring in May. I assume there are no plans for extension?
Well timeshares here on Oahu have been open since March. The Marriott Koolina Beach Club did not shut down one day.
IMHO it is a cop out to blame the government when it is a decision by DVC to not open. I do own Aulani points and it is a slap to my face to tell me to travel 5000 plus miles to use my points or let the points expire. I live here and bought points to use at Aulani. Now my only recourse is to use points on the East coast. If DVC is willing to pay for my airfare and rental car that would work.
Granted, using the points for HI resorts via RCI might not be a first-choice in normal times ... perhaps there is time, now, to give it a try?Now my only recourse is to use points on the East coast. If DVC is willing to pay for my airfare and rental car that would work.
Here is what I learned in my research. DVCM has broad range of reasons to close the resorts, especially when something of this nature or emergency is happening.
Government orders or policies can be used as part of the decision. There is no requirement that they have to remain open unless ordered to shut down.
So, from my understanding from conversations with DVC, those orders allow for them to close And play a role in opening back up.
While other timeshares made different decisions, I could find nothing that forces DVCM to do the same
While generally you are correct, I do not believe closing due to loss of profitability to the parent company is a covered reason.
Looks like a lot of owners is going to be losing points or I’m I missing something. Most dvc resorts was closed for like what 4 months. Than 2 we have no idea when they are going to open. People can’t use the points on dcl or adventures by Disney.seems like a no win for a lot of owners.
My home resort is Aulani. I’m a Southern California local and I had some questions regarding Aulani and Grand Cal, so I emailed Terri Schultz, the Senior VP for DVC. I suggest anyone with a question email her. I got a reply in less than 24 hours.
Well timeshares here on Oahu have been open since March. The Marriott Koolina Beach Club did not shut down one day.
IMHO it is a cop out to blame the government when it is a decision by DVC to not open. I do own Aulani points and it is a slap to my face to tell me to travel 5000 plus miles to use my points or let the points expire. I live here and bought points to use at Aulani. Now my only recourse is to use points on the East coast. If DVC is willing to pay for my airfare and rental car that would work.
I agree. It is completely ridiculous. And everything at the other dvc resorts should be completely open as well as allowed by law. Hotels are open in California and have been so for months, so DVC in California should be open too. Why is GC closed? TV areas in lobbies should be opened. All restaurants in dvc hotels should be opened unless under renovation. The curve has been flattened and at this point things should be opened. Anything legally allowed to be opened should be opened. I have no say in Disney’s hotel properties. Keep them closed indefinitely if they want, but dvc, and amenities within dvc hotels should be opened. They chose to combine dvc with their regular hotels in many instances, in order to take advantage of dvc member fees subsidizing the hotel side. Not my problem.
I agree. It is completely ridiculous. And everything at the other dvc resorts should be completely open as well as allowed by law. Hotels are open in California and have been so for months, so DVC in California should be open too. Why is GC closed? TV areas in lobbies should be opened. All restaurants in dvc hotels should be opened unless under renovation. The curve has been flattened and at this point things should be opened. Anything legally allowed to be opened should be opened. I have no say in Disney’s hotel properties. Keep them closed indefinitely if they want, but dvc, and amenities within dvc hotels should be opened. They chose to combine dvc with their regular hotels in many instances, in order to take advantage of dvc member fees subsidizing the hotel side. Not my problem.
And so are Members. Just as it was for WDW, there will be lots of upset Members if the resort is open but not the parks. They can't win no matter what they do.They are used to having their cake and eating it too.
I too think that they should be open and think DVC is probably violating the POS in keeping VGC and Aulani closed at this point. And agree that the extra cost that might come with it is a part of the risk they take with the agreements they have and the inclusion of DVC resorts with DVC hotels which otherwise almost certainly benefited Disney and Disney resorts for many years. They are used to having their cake and eating it too.
And so are Members. Just as it was for WDW, there will be lots of upset Members if the resort is open but not the parks. They can't win no matter what they do.
Actually, I posted in another thread but extra costs associated with an emergency or act of god, are not subject to that guarantee. It’s in the annual budget statement,
So, one could say that if those expenses required to open, without the Disney hotel being opened are a direct result of this pandemic, those may fall on the owners.
Same with Aulani, You open but people can’t stay and must Quarantine, you will get complaints anyway.
Since I dont own at either, I have no interest in digging deeper, but owners at those resorts who believe they are in violation of the POS should be contacting them and asking for specifics in to how they are not.
Well, that's interesting. Is the budget a governing document between owners and DVC though?
I do not recall that statement existing in the POS. The only thing really covered there is destruction of the buildings where they are uninhabitable. The other Act of God closure was a throw away sentence at the end of a paragraph.