ROFR Thread April to June 2022 *PLEASE SEE FIRST POST FOR INSTRUCTIONS & FORMATTING TOOL*

[hglenn]

LMH6-$128-$13,845-100-RIV-AUG-0/21, 62/22, 100/23-sent 6/21

Great price! If we add RIV I think we'll just do resale, too. The restrictions are worth it for that price and the resort/contract length!

 

[savvy101787]

LMH6-$128-$13,845-100-RIV-AUG-0/21, 62/22, 100/23-sent 6/21

I think this is the listing I asked about but was told it was already taken. Congrats and good luck!

 

[babecca1]

Got a new small contract to add to our existing BCV contract.

babecca1---$175-$4988-25-BCV-Sep-0/20, 0/21, 25/22, 25/23- sent 6/20

 

[Chia1974]

Great price! If we add RIV I think we'll just do resale, too. The restrictions are worth it for that price and the resort/contract length!

Thoughts on RIV resale vs direct @ 100 points September UY
Ideal resale deal $120 with no points for 2021, 50 points for 2022 and 100 points for 2023 and beyond and seller pays 22 dues

Direct $207-$14=$193x100=$19300
19300+532cc=19832
19832-396(Disney visa rewards)=19436
19436-417(1/2 dues 2022)=$19019
19019-150x21(rent150 extra pts)=$15869

Resale &12000+$650cc=$12650

Difference $3219

I know $3219 is not big/small amount but RIV has 48 years left. Difference is smaller with 200+direct.

 

[garegco]

garegco---$168-$31385-175-BLT-Oct-0/21, 350/22, 175/23-Delayed Close 9/26- sent 5/16, taken 6/20

That's 0 for 3 on BLT contracts as a first time buyer. Trying to figure out if we should keep chasing resale or just buy the 300+ points we are wanting direct at RIV at this time since the cost is actually cheaper with what they are buying BLT back at.

 

[savvy101787]

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Thoughts on RIV resale vs direct @ 100 points September UY
Ideal resale deal $120 with no points for 2021, 50 points for 2022 and 100 points for 2023 and beyond

Direct $207-$14=$193x100=$19300
19300+532cc=19832
19832-396(Disney visa rewards)=19436
19436-417(1/2 dues 2022)=$19019
19019-150x21(rent150 extra pts)=$15869

Resale &12000+$650cc=$12650

Difference $3219

I know $3219 is not big/small amount but RIV has 48 years left. Difference is smaller with 200+direct.

Are you saying you’d rent the 22 & 23 points to cover part of the cost? Or use 150 points from another source?

 

[BeachClub2014]

Thoughts on RIV resale vs direct @ 100 points September UY
Ideal resale deal $120 with no points for 2021, 50 points for 2022 and 100 points for 2023 and beyond

Direct $207-$14=$193x100=$19300
19300+532cc=19832
19832-396(Disney visa rewards)=19436
19436-417(1/2 dues 2022)=$19019
19019-150x21(rent150 extra pts)=$15869

Resale &12000+$650cc=$12650

Difference $3219

I know $3219 is not big/small amount but RIV has 48 years left. Difference is smaller with 200+direct.

Based on the numbers you've outlined, I would likely buy direct given the $3,200 delta. The direct points would have no restrictions and can be used anywhere, now and in the future. That would be worth the $3,200 premium to me.

 

[Chia1974]

garegco---$168-$31385-175-BLT-Oct-0/21, 350/22, 175/23-Delayed Close 9/26- sent 5/16, taken 6/20

That's 0 for 3 on BLT contracts as a first time buyer. Trying to figure out if we should keep chasing resale or just buy the 300+ points we are wanting direct at RIV at this time since the cost is actually cheaper with what they are buying BLT back at.

I paid $245 last year BLT direct after Disney took my first one. I think it’s totally possible to use RIV points at BLT, especially the lake view rooms have better availability.

 

[hglenn]

Thoughts on RIV resale vs direct @ 100 points September UY
Ideal resale deal $120 with no points for 2021, 50 points for 2022 and 100 points for 2023 and beyond

Direct $207-$14=$193x100=$19300
19300+532cc=19832
19832-396(Disney visa rewards)=19436
19436-417(1/2 dues 2022)=$19019
19019-150x21(rent150 extra pts)=$15869

Resale &12000+$650cc=$12650

Difference $3219

I know $3219 is not big/small amount but RIV has 48 years left. Difference is smaller with 200+direct.

Only issue is that I don't want to rent points... I want to use points.... LOL

 

[Chia1974]

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Are you saying you’d rent the 22 & 23 points to cover part of the cost? Or use 150 points from another source?

If I buy September UY I’d get 100 points from 2021 and 50 more in 2022 a resale doesn’t have.

 

[Chia1974]

Only issue is that I don't want to rent points... I want to use points.... LOL

I like cash

 

[hglenn]

I like cash

My husband has brain washed me ..... he doesn't go on vacation to save money.

 

[Sandisw]

Thoughts on RIV resale vs direct @ 100 points September UY
Ideal resale deal $120 with no points for 2021, 50 points for 2022 and 100 points for 2023 and beyond

Direct $207-$14=$193x100=$19300
19300+532cc=19832
19832-396(Disney visa rewards)=19436
19436-417(1/2 dues 2022)=$19019
19019-150x21(rent150 extra pts)=$15869

Resale &12000+$650cc=$12650

Difference $3219

I know $3219 is not big/small amount but RIV has 48 years left. Difference is smaller with 200+direct.

And, for $3200...its direct points are good everywhere and not just RIV...so, you pay more, but get more.

 

[hglenn]

And, for $3200...its direct points are good everywhere and not just RIV...so, you pay more, but get more.

Yea, that's very true... that's why I love these boards.... you guys are so smart and we get so many different perspectives.

 

[Chia1974]

And, for $3200...its direct points are good everywhere and not just RIV...so, you pay more, but get more.

I don’t absolutely love RIV and don’t love the restrictions of course. That’s why I used 100 points in the example. I can stay there sometimes but I won’t buy 200-300 points there.

 

[Sandisw]

I don’t absolutely love RIV and don’t love the restrictions of course. That’s why I used 100 points in the example. I can stay there sometimes but I won’t buy 200-300 points there.

Makes sense...just showing that with current incentives, for those debating, that $3200 is not such a huge difference to go from having a restricted to one resort contract, to one that can be used everywhere!!!

 

[DonMacGregor]

My husband has brain washed me ..... he doesn't go on vacation to save money.

A man after my own own heart…

 

[dlam32]

Thoughts on RIV resale vs direct @ 100 points September UY
Ideal resale deal $120 with no points for 2021, 50 points for 2022 and 100 points for 2023 and beyond

Direct $207-$14=$193x100=$19300
19300+532cc=19832
19832-396(Disney visa rewards)=19436
19436-417(1/2 dues 2022)=$19019
19019-150x21(rent150 extra pts)=$15869

Resale &12000+$650cc=$12650

Difference $3219

I know $3219 is not big/small amount but RIV has 48 years left. Difference is smaller with 200+direct.

So many unknowns with RIV right now. My personal opinion, if you don’t mind staying only at RIV, this might be the best opportunity for the lowest resale price floor given the economic conditions and Disney isn’t ROFRing RIV right now. Once RIV sells out, ROFR comes into play and the floor will be defined.

$3200 more/100 pts is not that big a difference over the life of the contract and gives more flexibility with point usage across the resorts, but that assumes you keep it to the end date. I think that are other posts have referenced 7 years as the avg time a DVC contract is held Should you find yourself needing to sell for whatever reason, you’re potentially going to take a decent hit because of the restrictions. I hope that DVD gets rid of the restriction if they aren’t going to apply them to other future resorts.

 

[Stargazer65]

Yea, that's very true... that's why I love these boards.... you guys are so smart and we get so many different perspectives.

Absolutely true, no one is a match for our brains. Let me put it this way-have you ever heard of Plato? Aristotle? Socrates?

...Morons.

 

[geargrinder]

Got the confirmation of the bad news.Disney took it I thought $140 a point for Akl would pass but I was wrong.

Dang, that sucks. I have a $135 waiting for ROFR right now. Doesn't bode well.

How many points was it?