zanzibar138
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- Joined
- Jun 30, 2007
Continued...
After Phong Nha cave, we set off towards our next stop. Soon we entered the national park, which was full of vibrant green jungle set against the backdrop of the limestone mountains. The little bus struggled up a few of the hills!
On this part of the journey, our guide told us about the role this area played in the Vietnam war. The cover of the lush jungle and the caves (many of which are actually not limestone, but a hard rock which could withstand bombing), this area was used as a bit of a hideout and an alternative route to the Ho Chi Minh Highway (which is where our hotel was). This area became very heavily attacked with bombs and agent orange, and everything died. There are still lots of lasting effects in the area, the jungle is actually very new, and will take a long time to grow back to its former state. This is an area where you still have to be very careful about landmines, and make sure you stick to the paths or have a guide. And there is still a very high rate of birth deformities in this area from the agent orange. Hearing him talk about it really gave me a higher respect for the Vietnamese people, and how they have moved on and now welcome westerners to their country. Our guide said he considers Vietnam to be very lucky to have come out of the war as one unified country.
The next stop on our tour was 8 Ladies Cave. This is just a tiny cave, where 8 ladies and a couple of men took shelter from a bomb attack. The explosion trapped them in the cave, and unfortunately they were unable to escape and all died. It has now been turned into a shrine. Given the solemn nature of the cave, I decided not to take any photos of the cave. I only got some of the surrounding jungle.
Our guide gave us some incense sticks for us to pray. I'm not really the praying type, but I used the opportunity to say my own little thank you to all the people in this world who have lost their lives in the name of peace.
On the way back to the bus, the guide told us stories about people who had disrespected the cave, and I was quite glad I had decided not to take photos!
And so ends the solemn part of the tour.
Our next stop was lunch, which was a huge spread of DIY pork and tofu rice paper rolls, with extra ribs and rice. Everything was so good, but there was just far too much for 2 people!
Where we had lunch was the start of the eco trail, which unfortunately wasn't part of the agenda. It looked great, and I was definitely keen to explore further. There were 3 dogs hanging around the restaurant, and one of the ladies there told us their names were No, Ki and A. This one is Ki.
After lunch it was back to the bus for the next destination, Paradise Cave. Our guide informed us that this cave is privately owned. It was definitely more touristy than anything else we had seen that day, with a huge carpark, entry turnstiles, and even little golf carts taking groups to the base of the cave. This was the jungle surrounding the carpark.
We didn't take the golf cart, but enjoyed the nice walk through the trees to the base of the cave.
Now when I say the base of the cave, I mean that the cave was high up in the hill, and there was a path from the bottom of the hill up to the cave. That was the part there should have been an alternative for! The jungle was really too dense to get much of a view, even though we were quite high up.
At the entrance to the cave there was an undercover area with some benches and a refreshment stand, where people could catch their breath before tackling the cave. Our guide took the opportunity to tell us a little bit about the cave.
Up until recently, Paradise Cave had been though to be the largest dry cave in the world. It has now been surpassed by Son Doong Cave, which is in the same national park. Son Doong Cave was only opened to tourists last year, and requires tourists to join a 6 day organised trek operated by one company. They are fully booked right through 2014. But back to Paradise Cave. This one was only opened to tourists in 2011, and has an amazing boardwalk through the first 1km or so. There is also a 7km tour which takes you further into the cave, which unfortunately we didn't find out about until too late.
Unlike other caves in the area, this one only has a small opening.
But it opens out into a massive space!
Like Phong Nha Cave, the lights in here have recently been replaced too. I preferred the individual formations of Fairy Cave, but there was no denying that the sheer size and en masse formations of Paradise Cave were absolutely spectacular.
For anyone who's wondering, I used my good quality point and shoot camera without the flash, but I used the hand rail as a tripod.
We were so lucky with the lack of crowds in this cave too. There were parts of it when we couldn't see or hear another person, and it was amazingly peaceful and beautiful. Our guide did not join us, as he explained that he works for the national park, not the company that owns the cave. It was a bit weird. He came down the stairs with us, then just waited at the start. It didn't really matter anyway, we know enough about how caves are formed and stuff.
We needed another rest at the waiting area after climbing all the stairs to get out of the cave Then we made our way down the hill and back to the bus.
The drive back to the hotel was pretty spectacular, and we both decided that we really wanted to spend more time there (we had been toying with the idea of hiring bikes and riding around the local hotel area). When we got back, we found the manager and asked him what our options were. Unfortunately he could not offer us much. There were only one other guided tour available to the park, which also went to Paradise Cave. Our only other option was to hire a motorbike and drive ourselves. Unfortunately that was not an option as our travel insurance didn't cover motorbikes. We decided that we would have to book the other tour.
Next time, we'll probably make sure our travel insurance includes motorbike use, and also look at tour options available through other companies before we go (our hotel did share some tours with a nearby farmstay, but didn't offer all of their activities).
After Phong Nha cave, we set off towards our next stop. Soon we entered the national park, which was full of vibrant green jungle set against the backdrop of the limestone mountains. The little bus struggled up a few of the hills!
On this part of the journey, our guide told us about the role this area played in the Vietnam war. The cover of the lush jungle and the caves (many of which are actually not limestone, but a hard rock which could withstand bombing), this area was used as a bit of a hideout and an alternative route to the Ho Chi Minh Highway (which is where our hotel was). This area became very heavily attacked with bombs and agent orange, and everything died. There are still lots of lasting effects in the area, the jungle is actually very new, and will take a long time to grow back to its former state. This is an area where you still have to be very careful about landmines, and make sure you stick to the paths or have a guide. And there is still a very high rate of birth deformities in this area from the agent orange. Hearing him talk about it really gave me a higher respect for the Vietnamese people, and how they have moved on and now welcome westerners to their country. Our guide said he considers Vietnam to be very lucky to have come out of the war as one unified country.
The next stop on our tour was 8 Ladies Cave. This is just a tiny cave, where 8 ladies and a couple of men took shelter from a bomb attack. The explosion trapped them in the cave, and unfortunately they were unable to escape and all died. It has now been turned into a shrine. Given the solemn nature of the cave, I decided not to take any photos of the cave. I only got some of the surrounding jungle.
Our guide gave us some incense sticks for us to pray. I'm not really the praying type, but I used the opportunity to say my own little thank you to all the people in this world who have lost their lives in the name of peace.
On the way back to the bus, the guide told us stories about people who had disrespected the cave, and I was quite glad I had decided not to take photos!
And so ends the solemn part of the tour.
Our next stop was lunch, which was a huge spread of DIY pork and tofu rice paper rolls, with extra ribs and rice. Everything was so good, but there was just far too much for 2 people!
Where we had lunch was the start of the eco trail, which unfortunately wasn't part of the agenda. It looked great, and I was definitely keen to explore further. There were 3 dogs hanging around the restaurant, and one of the ladies there told us their names were No, Ki and A. This one is Ki.
After lunch it was back to the bus for the next destination, Paradise Cave. Our guide informed us that this cave is privately owned. It was definitely more touristy than anything else we had seen that day, with a huge carpark, entry turnstiles, and even little golf carts taking groups to the base of the cave. This was the jungle surrounding the carpark.
We didn't take the golf cart, but enjoyed the nice walk through the trees to the base of the cave.
Now when I say the base of the cave, I mean that the cave was high up in the hill, and there was a path from the bottom of the hill up to the cave. That was the part there should have been an alternative for! The jungle was really too dense to get much of a view, even though we were quite high up.
At the entrance to the cave there was an undercover area with some benches and a refreshment stand, where people could catch their breath before tackling the cave. Our guide took the opportunity to tell us a little bit about the cave.
Up until recently, Paradise Cave had been though to be the largest dry cave in the world. It has now been surpassed by Son Doong Cave, which is in the same national park. Son Doong Cave was only opened to tourists last year, and requires tourists to join a 6 day organised trek operated by one company. They are fully booked right through 2014. But back to Paradise Cave. This one was only opened to tourists in 2011, and has an amazing boardwalk through the first 1km or so. There is also a 7km tour which takes you further into the cave, which unfortunately we didn't find out about until too late.
Unlike other caves in the area, this one only has a small opening.
But it opens out into a massive space!
Like Phong Nha Cave, the lights in here have recently been replaced too. I preferred the individual formations of Fairy Cave, but there was no denying that the sheer size and en masse formations of Paradise Cave were absolutely spectacular.
For anyone who's wondering, I used my good quality point and shoot camera without the flash, but I used the hand rail as a tripod.
We were so lucky with the lack of crowds in this cave too. There were parts of it when we couldn't see or hear another person, and it was amazingly peaceful and beautiful. Our guide did not join us, as he explained that he works for the national park, not the company that owns the cave. It was a bit weird. He came down the stairs with us, then just waited at the start. It didn't really matter anyway, we know enough about how caves are formed and stuff.
We needed another rest at the waiting area after climbing all the stairs to get out of the cave Then we made our way down the hill and back to the bus.
The drive back to the hotel was pretty spectacular, and we both decided that we really wanted to spend more time there (we had been toying with the idea of hiring bikes and riding around the local hotel area). When we got back, we found the manager and asked him what our options were. Unfortunately he could not offer us much. There were only one other guided tour available to the park, which also went to Paradise Cave. Our only other option was to hire a motorbike and drive ourselves. Unfortunately that was not an option as our travel insurance didn't cover motorbikes. We decided that we would have to book the other tour.
Next time, we'll probably make sure our travel insurance includes motorbike use, and also look at tour options available through other companies before we go (our hotel did share some tours with a nearby farmstay, but didn't offer all of their activities).