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It looked like if you were at rope drop, cast members walked guests over to the critter country entrance. I read if you have a reservation for Oga’s you enter at the fantasyland entrance. Check out Disneyland daily on FB. She had a great write up about today.
 
Can you speak more to this and why you think the “public masses” won’t arrive as hyped? I’ve been harboring a similar theory but thought I was probably being... unrealistic?

Well, basically, the large crowds at DL are composed of Deluxe and lower AP holders. People within easy day driving distance that are NOT AP holders generally only visit en masse when Disney has a special ticket offer, like the one they have every Jan-May. The vast majority of locals fall into these two groups. Not many people nearby actually buy full priced one day tickets. And, out of town overnight guests (tourists) make up a substantially smaller percentage of park guests vs WDW.

It has been a theory of mine forever, but this Deluxe AP blackout proves it is actually true. The only busy days in June so far have been days the Deluxe APs were allowed entry. The days they have been blocked out have been ghost town level slow, by comparison.
 


I guess dinner is over! Line went up back to 45 minutes as of 7:07 pm. Not that bad but could be better during this time of day.
 
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This is actually shocking! I really thought today would be super crazy! I guess we were almost all wrong as even Space Mountain and Peter Pan had longer wait times at certain times of the day. Disney is really not pleased with the crowd levels. Just wait till more of the general public finds out about what is going on...
 
Thank you to everyone for the Savi's input...exactly what I needed to hear!! We will head for the Droid Depot!! ;)
We were there this weekend. Know that many colors were sold out in the Droid Depot, so don’t show your kids all the You Tube videos and get their heart set on something that may very well be sold out when you get there. Also all personality chips were sold out.

No backpacks for droid’s this weekend. We did not build a droid, we did Savi’s. They only had the blue Kyber crystals in the gift shop for the replacement in the saber, but that was only during our 11am slot. We bought one because we made the purple saber, and we wanted another color option. When we came back for our 8pm reservation, no Kyber crystals in any color were available. They said they had no idea if/when they would get more of any color. Literally everyone in the shop seemed to be asking about them, and they had nothing.

I was disappointed in the non-availability of the merchandise. I wanted to give DLR more money, but they were out of stuff we wanted!! So just be careful with getting the kids excited about something specific that may not be there on your trip.
 
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When we went on June 3rd (Day 4 of the reservation period) the droid backpacks were sold out.
Wow. I had an 8am rez on that day and I was able to get a backpack. I know I haven't heard of them being in stock again after that.
 
Either way people wanna slice it, it's better to overestimate crowds than to underestimate. Now, they can walk back block out dates, ticket offers and other things to get people in the park. If Disney didn't do any Stardust projects, didnt change block out calendars and get new parking plans, Disneyland would be chaos, guests would be very unhappy and the bad PR would have made everyone look bad.

Now, they got a somewhat empty park and loads of ways to fill it. This was the right play on their part.
 
In 2017, I found the park crowds during D23 to be quite low. This year, however, I think all bets are off. That week will also be the first that the lower-end Annual Passes aren't blocked, so there will probably be a surge of passholders trying to check out Galaxy's Edge.

That said, I'll still be flying in from New York that week and hoping for the best! 🤞
 
I realize it is no longer applicable to the new system, but I want to comment on our experience on this Saturday getting into the land and getting Oga’s and Savi’s reservations. I am going to write to Disney about this in the hopes that they use a different system when they open in Florida. It was terribly unsafe, and I was afraid me or my child would get trampled. We had both 11am and 8pm reservations on Saturday, so we got to try the running of the bulls twice in one day. 11am was bad, 8pm was horrible.

As others have said, there was a line 1.5 or more hours by Hungry Bear, but the CMs kept yelling out that they weren’t recognizing the line, “the line is not a line”, and telling us to just mill around near there and then rush in when they opened the path. Why would CMs be instructing people to just rush in? Once they opened the path, there was a huge surge of guests from the “line” and every other direction. People were hanging out in the lower patio of HB and then just crushed into the line from the left, jumping over the flower beds and shrubs. It is a narrow path and people were getting pushed all over the place. They stopped the line several times along the way and held it for 10-15 minutes at different points. When we finally got to the final “hold” at the entrance to the land, I was one person back from the front of the group, and I was on the right both sessions, trying for Oga’s. My DH and DDs were on the left, trying for Savi’s at the 11am session.

They made stern announcements about no pushing, no running etc. Then the orange pole CM started walking and letting people in. It was absolute chaos, and so much worse in the 8pm slot (I think there were more adult-only groups at 8pm, which made it a more aggressive crowd). People rushed into the Oga’s line from the left, shoving and pushing and yelling. CMs did nothing. Especially in the 8pm group, multiple people fell on a wet area of pavement, multiple people lost their shoes (Mine were pulled off my heels several times but I was able to shove my foot back in without losing a shoe). I let my DD 11 go for the Oga’s line at 8pm with me since I had made it in at 11am, and I felt like I knew what I was doing. Big mistake. People purposely separated us to get in front of DD, and they were pushing into the planters, trash cans, signs and everything else. A lady seriously injured her foot (but was wearing flip flops, so a terrible choice for this contact sport). Even though I was one person back to start, and right behind the leading CM, I was probably 75-100 or more people back when we arrived at Oga’s, maybe more. That is how many people cut the line and shoved into it.

This was the third weekend of the reservation system, so I felt Disney would have seen this over and over every day and have a handle on it. NO they did not. It was so dangerous and so poorly managed. The CMs literally did nothing to control the crowds; they just walked with an orange ribbon on a pole and didn’t look back. I do RD at every park and race for RSR and other rides, and I have never, ever felt unsafe until this.

I hope they do the online reservations only for the version in WDW from the beginning because these CMs have NO idea how to control a crowd safely. People were barbaric, and it was ridiculous.

We loved everything about the land, Savi’s, Oga’s (I did end up getting in during both sessions, but it wasn’t worth the risk after it was all said and done), MFSR, all of it. I feel like most of the experience was well managed. The race for Oga’s and Savi’s was a disaster, was dangerous, and hopefully doesn’t ever get repeated.
 
I realize it is no longer applicable to the new system, but I want to comment on our experience on this Saturday getting into the land and getting Oga’s and Savi’s reservations. I am going to write to Disney about this in the hopes that they use a different system when they open in Florida. It was terribly unsafe, and I was afraid me or my child would get trampled. We had both 11am and 8pm reservations on Saturday, so we got to try the running of the bulls twice in one day. 11am was bad, 8pm was horrible.

As others have said, there was a line 1.5 or more hours by Hungry Bear, but the CMs kept yelling out that they weren’t recognizing the line, “the line is not a line”, and telling us to just mill around near there and then rush in when they opened the path. Why would CMs be instructing people to just rush in? Once they opened the path, there was a huge surge of guests from the “line” and every other direction. People were hanging out in the lower patio of HB and then just crushed into the line from the left, jumping over the flower beds and shrubs. It is a narrow path and people were getting pushed all over the place. They stopped the line several times along the way and held it for 10-15 minutes at different points. When we finally got to the final “hold” at the entrance to the land, I was one person back from the front of the group, and I was on the right both sessions, trying for Oga’s. My DH and DDs were on the left, trying for Savi’s at the 11am session.

They made stern announcements about no pushing, no running etc. Then the orange pole CM started walking and letting people in. It was absolute chaos, and so much worse in the 8pm slot (I think there were more adult-only groups at 8pm, which made it a more aggressive crowd). People rushed into the Oga’s line from the left, shoving and pushing and yelling. CMs did nothing. Especially in the 8pm group, multiple people fell on a wet area of pavement, multiple people lost their shoes (Mine were pulled off my heels several times but I was able to shove my foot back in without losing a shoe). I let my DD 11 go for the Oga’s line at 8pm with me since I had made it in at 11am, and I felt like I knew what I was doing. Big mistake. People purposely separated us to get in front of DD, and they were pushing into the planters, trash cans, signs and everything else. A lady seriously injured her foot (but was wearing flip flops, so a terrible choice for this contact sport). Even though I was one person back to start, and right behind the leading CM, I was probably 75-100 or more people back when we arrived at Oga’s, maybe more. That is how many people cut the line and shoved into it.

This was the third weekend of the reservation system, so I felt Disney would have seen this over and over every day and have a handle on it. NO they did not. It was so dangerous and so poorly managed. The CMs literally did nothing to control the crowds; they just walked with an orange ribbon on a pole and didn’t look back. I do RD at every park and race for RSR and other rides, and I have never, ever felt unsafe until this.

I hope they do the online reservations only for the version in WDW from the beginning because these CMs have NO idea how to control a crowd safely. People were barbaric, and it was ridiculous.

We loved everything about the land, Savi’s, Oga’s (I did end up getting in during both sessions, but it wasn’t worth the risk after it was all said and done), MFSR, all of it. I feel like most of the experience was well managed. The race for Oga’s and Savi’s was a disaster, was dangerous, and hopefully doesn’t ever get repeated.
That’s exactly how I felt!! And your day/times sound even worse than mine. Hopefully they learn from this. It seems like the online reservations have alleviated the “panic” aspect. Hopefully. 🤞🏻

I’m glad you enjoyed the rest of the land!
 
For those with droids, what areas of SWGE do they react around the most? I noticed mine moved near the ride, around other droids, and the market. My droid doesn’t have any of the chips in it.
 
RE: Questions about Expo affecting DLR crowds

Moving this to the D23 Expo Superthread in this forum. The Expo vets there will have good answers based on past experience.
 
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