bakerworld
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- May 24, 2010
Hoping this 50% rule is taken away before I need to book September 2022 or we'll be unable to book the family trip in a 3br.
Maybe get a point transfer from the rental thread on the DIS so that way you get your big trip with less stress. And have points to use the following year too since you can’t borrow as much.We have been planning a huge trip at the end of next year for a while (preCOVID). We knew we would need to purchase a second contract to do so and are almost prepared to purchase. We have 100 direct points at AKV and will be buying another 100 at AKV so we can bank/use/borrow our way into a GV. I'm pretty stressed about this borrowing restriction, because that kills our plan completely. There is no sense in buying a second contract if we can't do this. We will just rent out our current contract and stay off site, which is NOT what I had envisioned when we bought into DVC.
Stupid COVID.
If the restriction continues into the future (I saw somewhere that it might be staying) then we might be looking at getting rid of our contracts altogether.
Maybe I am crazy on this one, but why is it ok for Disney to profit off one time use points when memebers arent even allowed to use what they have due to too many points being out in the wild?
If you "saw" that, it was nothing more than idle chatter and speculation. Borrowing points is one of the key selling points of the program. DVC has little reason harm the program by needlessly restricting that benefit.
I'll agree it's a bit of a bad look for DVC. But the one time use points are current year points Disney owns which are unsold. In fairness, I think it's reasonable to say that DVC should have higher priority to use its current year points than members to borrow more from a future year.
But should Disney have priority to put limits in place after advertising to guests that if you just buy 50 points, you can pool them every 3 years.... to now forcing those same people to buy upcharge points? Its all pretty slimy.
But should Disney have priority to put limits in place after advertising to guests that if you just buy 50 points, you can pool them every 3 years.... to now forcing those same people to buy upcharge points? Its all pretty slimy.
Thanks Sandisw - you always seem to be the ‘voice of reason’ in the cacophony of opinions here at the Dis!I agree it’s a bad look, but do you think the better option would be using them to take rooms out of inventory and sell for cash?
As an owner, they would have every right to do that. Maybe it’s also a way to compensate them for all the points they used from their own inventory to extend banked points last year of owners? It appears they are doing it for international owners now too, something they were under no obligation to do.
I am not happy with them over the staffing issues for MS right now, but I think they have been more than fair with owners in the exceptions they made with expiring points.
Now, if sometime within 2022 this is not back? Then my position will be different.
but I think they have been more than fair with owners in the exceptions they made with expiring points
Overall I think DVC has done an admirable job of making exceptions. And even though the borrowing limit has--and will--hurt me personally, I also understand why it exists.
Maybe I'm nuts but I feel like they should had the 50% borrow rule and the pandemic cancelation guidelines be tied together. If they are going to restrict us on borrowing then we should have some flexibility with canceling. Either have it prepandemic normalcy or during pandemic guidelines. Any reason why they shouldn't that I'm missing?
I think at this point, it makes sense to see the holding and the return of borrowed points ended. It means it keeps points current and those will need to be used now within current availabilit.
The borrowing restriction makes sure that all the extra banked points from last year are not competing for rooms with points being brought forward from borrowing being back to 100%.
Im not sure they care about the competition considering the blanket statement of 50% borrowing let a lot of rooms go to waste during the reopening.
When we bought into DVC, the ability to borrow was a huge factor for us. As of now, we don't have enough points to travel the way we like to and won't be able to as long as the 50% restriction stays in place. Another in a long list of my frustrations with DVC right now. We don't do a DVC trip every year so we need those borrowed points to book. If the restriction continues into the future (I saw somewhere that it might be staying) then we might be looking at getting rid of our contracts altogether.
Very good point. Question...could someone buy points from another owner to complete a reservation? You mentioned the limits on buying extra points directly from DVC, but do those restrictions hold true when buying points from other DVC members? I really appreciate all your knowledge when it comes to the finer details of DVC...I am still a "rookie". LOL.I agree it’s a bad look, but do you think the better option would be using them to take rooms out of inventory and sell for cash?
As an owner, they would have every right to do that. Maybe it’s also a way to compensate them for all the points they used from their own inventory to extend banked points last year of owners? It appears they are doing it for international owners now too, something they were under no obligation to do.
I am not happy with them over the staffing issues for MS right now, but I think they have been more than fair with owners in the exceptions they made with expiring points.
Now, if sometime within 2022 this is not back? Then my position will be different.