Genealogy thread

[RUDisney]

I’m sorry to hear that. At least she’s at peace now.

Exactly. Since 1945.

 

[BadPinkTink]

Is Irish ancestry hard due to common names or are records not just available?

It depends. Most familys are very good with oral history, so the main starting point is getting older members to talk and then write down what they say. Most family oral histories are pretty accurate, and in generations past if people didnt leave Ireland, they generally stayed in the same area. So for example, my dad is from Co Kerry and we have traced directly back to a man born in 1797 and his wife who were married in 1826. I can say for certain that this man who lived in Co Kerry in the 1820's is a direct descendant.

In 1921 the main courthouse in Dublin where huge amounts of records were stored was bombed during the Irish Civil War. All the documents stored there were lost. But Churches also kept records so if you know the area you can write to the Church and this give you a copy of whatever records they have.

The National Archives in Dublin is another great resource. They have all the birth, marriage and death records from 1 January 1864 (and Jewish and non-Roman Catholic marriages occurring since 1 April 1845)

There are also huge amounts of community historical and ancestry societies all over Ireland who keep local records. Again if you know the area, you can search online and find the local historical or ancestry society and they can help you.

Some parts of Ireland have community websites and again, if you know the area and contact them, its very likely that someone local may be able to help you.

Americans think that tracing Irish ancestry is hard but its not really. You just need to find that one gateway person or resource

 

[Buzz Rules]

Exactly. Since 1945.

Does your DH know a lot about his family history from way back as well?

 

[RUDisney]

Does your DH know a lot about his family history from way back as well?

He doesn't even know many of his first cousins on this father's side. They were an odd lot, from what I understand. I think that because they don't know much, and because my kids were born in Russia, my MIL was interested in the history of that side.

I'm doing my research on all of the facets of the family. I've traced back to my great, great grands in Poland on both my Mom's and Dad's sides. I've got my DH's side traced back to Italy on his great grands on his Mom's side.

 

[Buzz Rules]

He doesn't even know many of his first cousins on this father's side. They were an odd lot, from what I understand. I think that because they don't know much, and because my kids were born in Russia, my MIL was interested in the history of that side.

I'm doing my research on all of the facets of the family. I've traced back to my great, great grands in Poland on both my Mom's and Dad's sides. I've got my DH's side traced back to Italy on his great grands on his Mom's side.

I hope the search goes well.

 

[RUDisney]

Thank you

 

[Buzz Rules]

Thank you

If you look at Belarus’s history including border maps, wars in the last 200 years, and marriage/religious records from your FIL’s town/city, you may have an easier time tracking ancestors back to 1850.

 

[disneyworldsk]

Several ways. If she was a naturalized citizen or had passport, her picture would be in those documents. Her immigration papers would also have a photograph. If she stayed in Germany, many records were kept on every person in the country during the Nazi era. Ancestry has many of those records as well.

Yes, thank you for helping me. Here's my problem exactly: There is an i.d. of her from Nazi regime before her murder in Hadamar extermination facility in 1941. The 'regular' picture of her in Munich in 1935 with friends is 'the real her'. The i.d. picture of her basically looks like a shell of a person. None of the four women in the photo from 1935 look anything like the i.d. picture. I was told by an author who found her i.d. picture that it would be difficult to compare because her id depicts a woman in the throws of tragedy and terror, years of torture. But I do indeed have it. It's just not helping me figure out who she is in the group picture. Advice? Thank you!

 

[Buzz Rules]

Yes, thank you for helping me. Here's my problem exactly: There is an i.d. of her from Nazi regime before her murder in Hadamar extermination facility in 1941. The 'regular' picture of her in Munich in 1935 with friends is 'the real her'. The i.d. picture of her basically looks like a shell of a person. None of the four women in the photo from 1935 look anything like the i.d. picture. I was told by an author who found her i.d. picture that it would be difficult to compare because her id depicts a woman in the throws of tragedy and terror, years of torture. But I do indeed have it. It's just not helping me figure out who she is in the group picture. Advice? Thank you!

First, do you believe the other three women are relatives (sisters of your aunt) or just her friends? Second, look to see if any facial features are identifiable (nose structure, eye color, face shape, and hair color. Third, do you know where the picture was taken? Fourth, do you see an age difference between the four women in the photo?

 

[disneyworldsk]

First, do you believe the other three women are relatives (sisters of your aunt) or just her friends? Second, look to see if any facial features are identifiable (nose structure, eye color, face shape, and hair color. Third, do you know where the picture was taken? Fourth, do you see an age difference between the four women in the photo?

i think the other ladies are friends and not relatives of the same age (ish). Yes, the city on the back handwritten says her name, year, and Munich (Germany). Black and White. So hair color is difficult. Her i.d. is taken at a very different angle from this picture of the ladies , totally different profile angle for all of them. And the i.d. is about five to seven years later after severe trauma affected her life that I won't go into.
I would love to figure out though which is her in the picture with the ladies. The i.d. just isn't 'her', it's a shell of her, a ghost.

 

[Buzz Rules]

i think the other ladies are friends and not relatives of the same age (ish). Yes, the city on the back handwritten says her name, year, and Munich (Germany). Black and White. So hair color is difficult. Her i.d. is taken at a very different angle from this picture of the ladies , totally different profile angle for all of them. And the i.d. is about five to seven years later after severe trauma affected her life that I won't go into.
I would love to figure out though which is her in the picture with the ladies. The i.d. just isn't 'her', it's a shell of her, a ghost.

I’ll get back to you with some more ideas.

 

[Buzz Rules]

i think the other ladies are friends and not relatives of the same age (ish). Yes, the city on the back handwritten says her name, year, and Munich (Germany). Black and White. So hair color is difficult. Her i.d. is taken at a very different angle from this picture of the ladies , totally different profile angle for all of them. And the i.d. is about five to seven years later after severe trauma affected her life that I won't go into.
I would love to figure out though which is her in the picture with the ladies. The i.d. just isn't 'her', it's a shell of her, a ghost.

I have an idea. If you have an Ancestry account set up, you could try posting the picture in their forum section (if you are comfortable having the photo public). Someone on Ancestry may have the same photo themselves and then might be able to identify the others in the photo for you. You could also talk to an Ancestry expert who may have the photo labeled on file if someone else has submitted it before. Just some ideas.

 

[Buzz Rules]

Any new questions for today?

 

[disneyworldsk]

I have an idea. If you have an Ancestry account set up, you could try posting the picture in their forum section (if you are comfortable having the photo public). Someone on Ancestry may have the same photo themselves and then might be able to identify the others in the photo for you. You could also talk to an Ancestry expert who may have the photo labeled on file if someone else has submitted it before. Just some ideas.

Thank you, I would have to think about that idea! Not sure if I like putting it on a huge public forum like that or it would feel like a needle in a haystack.....

 

[Carol_]

I was told that one of our relatives decided to run away from his royal family when they became targets of assassination. I never got a name. I’ve never looked for one. I’m pretty sure it’s true, though, because I’m a snooty chicken, too.

 

[Marionnette]

Any new questions for today?

Right now, I'm researching my 2x great-grandfather's role in the Civil War. He served in the PA 184th regiment Company C. One source claims that they fought at Gettysburg but I can't find any additional source that supports this claim. AFAIK, he mustered in May 12, 1864 (too late for the Battle of Gettysburg), saw a lot of action in Va and apparently his company was present at Appomattox Court House.

Where would I go to find primary sources for the various movements and battles for specific regiments?

 

[Buzz Rules]

I was told that one of our relatives decided to run away from his royal family when they became targets of assassination. I never got a name. I’ve never looked for one. I’m pretty sure it’s true, though, because I’m a snooty chicken, too.

What country and time period would you estimate?

 

[Buzz Rules]

Right now, I'm researching my 2x great-grandfather's role in the Civil War. He served in the PA 184th regiment Company C. One source claims that they fought at Gettysburg but I can't find any additional source that supports this claim. AFAIK, he mustered in May 12, 1864 (too late for the Battle of Gettysburg), saw a lot of action in Va and apparently his company was present at Appomattox Court House.

Where would I go to find primary sources for the various movements and battles for specific regiments?

I’ll do some research. I’ll get back to you.

 

[Buzz Rules]

Right now, I'm researching my 2x great-grandfather's role in the Civil War. He served in the PA 184th regiment Company C. One source claims that they fought at Gettysburg but I can't find any additional source that supports this claim. AFAIK, he mustered in May 12, 1864 (too late for the Battle of Gettysburg), saw a lot of action in Va and apparently his company was present at Appomattox Court House.

Where would I go to find primary sources for the various movements and battles for specific regiments?

https://quod.lib.umich.edu/m/moa/ab...age;q1=One+Hundred+and+Eighty-Fourth+Regiment

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/184th_Pennsylvania_Infantry_Regiment

http://www.pacivilwar.com/regiment/184th.html

 

[Buzz Rules]

Right now, I'm researching my 2x great-grandfather's role in the Civil War. He served in the PA 184th regiment Company C. One source claims that they fought at Gettysburg but I can't find any additional source that supports this claim. AFAIK, he mustered in May 12, 1864 (too late for the Battle of Gettysburg), saw a lot of action in Va and apparently his company was present at Appomattox Court House.

Where would I go to find primary sources for the various movements and battles for specific regiments?

Ancestry has more sources and the PA’s state historical/military department should also have more details. Fold 3 also has a military database as well.