The Running Thread - 2021

[MissLiss279]

Hey friends - blisters? Any thoughts about how to prevent them? I consistently get one on my left baby toe and my friend Jenna has been getting one in the same spot plus some others.

I use 2Toms on my toes plus I wear Injinji toe socks to help prevent blisters. The 2Toms works better for me than Body Glide on my toes. It is more oil based. My blisters are mainly between my toes and not on the outside of my toes.

 

[Kerry1957]

I use 2Toms on my toes plus I wear Injinji toe socks to help prevent blisters. The 2Toms works better for me than Body Glide on my toes. It is more oil based. My blisters are mainly between my toes and not on the outside of my toes.

I had never heard of 2Toms so I googled it and the first page was a brewery in Indiana. Among others, they currently have what sounds to be a nice Munich Dunkel on tap (but no hefeweizens).
I thought.....you put beer on your feet?

(then I found the real website)

 

[MissLiss279]

I had never heard of 2Toms so I googled it and the first page was a brewery in Indiana. Among others, they currently have what sounds to be a nice Munich Dunkel on tap (but no hefeweizens).
I thought.....you put beer on your feet?

(then I found the real website)

I guess I should clarify that I use 2Toms Sport Shield (the green labled, roll on bottle).

 

[steph0808]

I agree with toe socks - I also wear Injini socks and rarely get blisters (maybe one on my second toe after a marathon, but that is about it).

 

[lookingforsunshine]

Hey friends - blisters? Any thoughts about how to prevent them?

I have had success with moleskin and Nexcare waterproof first aid tape.

 

[gosalyn_mallard]

In keeping with the theme of bad weather running, today’s 16 mile run featured moderate to heavy rain with 7-10 mph winds gusting significantly higher. Starting temperature was 49 degrees, which fell to 43-44 degrees by the end of the run. I was drenched and cold by the end, but it got done.

The biggest challenge was figuring out how to deal with the temperature drop. Normally, you want to be a little cool at the start of the run, knowing you’ll heat up as the run goes on. Today I knew that despite my body warming up as the run went on, the dropping temps and chill from the wind and soaking rain would make it too cold as I got deeper into the run. In this case, I had to start overdressed and slightly overheating, knowing that the conditions would eventually normalize things. That strategy seemed to work well.

That sounds like a miserable run. Kudos for getting it done!

 

[lookingforsunshine]

Thank you all for the weather advice! I ended up doing 2.6 miles on Saturday (at 5:30 am in the cold and rain— it was supposed to be a 3 mile fun run but the course was short). The hat advice was great! It helped a lot. I was going to finish my 12 miles after but I was underprepared for it due to waking up late for the fun run. I didn’t have my headlamp and it was still going to be dark for an hour and a half.
I thought it was important to do my scheduled 12 without a 2 1/2-3 hr break in the middle (the race was far from my house), so I just called it a day yesterday and did 12 miles outside today. No rain but it was chilly— mid-30s. Honestly an ideal temperature for me, though, as long as it is not windy (which it was not). I wore my Athleta Rainier Tights, Patagonia R1 fleece long sleeve, a very lightweight windbreaker, a buff over my ears, and some gloves and felt fine/sometimes warm.

 

[GreatLakes]

Hey friends - blisters? Any thoughts about how to prevent them? I consistently get one on my left baby toe and my friend Jenna has been getting one in the same spot plus some others.

The first thing to take a look at is shoe fit. I've found that blisters on the outside of toes is more down to shoes than anything else.

I will sometimes get blisters between my toes or at the base of where the toe meets the foot. I will apply a thin coating of Aquaphor on the bottom and side of my foot and in between my toes. You want very thin but since I started that I rarely get a blister. I tried the toe socks mentioned here and they just don't work for me. They actually made my blisters worse.

 

[Mr_Incr3dible]

Hey friends - blisters? Any thoughts about how to prevent them? I consistently get one on my left baby toe and my friend Jenna has been getting one in the same spot plus some others.

Echo-ing others: Moleskin as a barrier, and Injinji toe socks to try to isolate the toes.

 

[PrincessV]

I've already complained in the MW thread, but I'm happy to complain here, too! While y'all are battling cold and rain, I had the "pleasure" of doing my final 20-miler before Dopey in a return of FL Summer: started at 70*, finished at 80* with a feels like of 85*. High humidity, too. Because obviously. Brutal. I'm reeeeaaaalllly hoping we don't have a third super-hot WDW Marathon in a row.

 

[Herding_Cats]

Speaking of all of the hot, sweaty, chafe-inducing heat that we are hoping to AVOID.....heat acclimation training is coming. And while I could ask in the MW thread, I'll ask here since this is something that can pop up for ALL of the race weekends for us northerners.

How sweaty are we supposed to get? I don't have the clothes to do this outside in our current temps (or the extra funds to buy the clothes right now), so I'm going to continue my treadmill slog-to-the-finish. As sweaty as possible? FWIW, when I did my 12mi last night I wasn't anywhere near "dripping sweat"....my basement is somewhere between 60 and 65 I think?

 

[opusone]

Speaking of all of the hot, sweaty, chafe-inducing heat that we are hoping to AVOID.....heat acclimation training is coming. And while I could ask in the MW thread, I'll ask here since this is something that can pop up for ALL of the race weekends for us northerners.

How sweaty are we supposed to get? I don't have the clothes to do this outside in our current temps (or the extra funds to buy the clothes right now), so I'm going to continue my treadmill slog-to-the-finish. As sweaty as possible? FWIW, when I did my 12mi last night I wasn't anywhere near "dripping sweat"....my basement is somewhere between 60 and 65 I think?

I think a treadmill is fine for heat acclimation training. I find I sweat much more on the treadmill in 65° than outside in the 30s right now. Now it's still not the same as 70° with high humidity, but you also don't have the cooling effect of moving through the air, so I figure it is good enough. Plus, we have no real idea what the temps will be on race morning(s).

 

[PrincessV]

FWIW, when I did my 12mi last night I wasn't anywhere near "dripping sweat"....my basement is somewhere between 60 and 65 I think?

I think a treadmill is fine for heat acclimation training. I find I sweat much more on the treadmill in 65° than outside in the 30s right now. Now it's still not the same as 70° with high humidity...

I genuinely find this stuff fascinating! Here in FL, I move to the treadmill in summer to get a cooler run - cooler being the 78* in my house, as opposed to the 100* outside, lol! I turn on the heat before it hits 65* in here.

Sorry: I'm of no help at all on this subject, clearly!

 

[Herding_Cats]

Anyone looking for a Memorial Weekend full.....the Bayshore Marathon in Traverse City, MI didn't sell out. Which is kind of shocking.

 

[michigandergirl]

I have a running friend earlier this year that posted a Goodr a day from his collection....it ended at 151 days.

Whoa!! That makes me feel better about my Goodr obsession - I think I have about 10.

 

[DopeyBadger]

How sweaty are we supposed to get? I don't have the clothes to do this outside in our current temps (or the extra funds to buy the clothes right now), so I'm going to continue my treadmill slog-to-the-finish. As sweaty as possible? FWIW, when I did my 12mi last night I wasn't anywhere near "dripping sweat"....my basement is somewhere between 60 and 65 I think?

When I do my heat acclimation outside, I typically wear a poorly venting jacket and dress 20-30F colder than I would under those same conditions. So if your basement is 60-65, dress like it is 30-35F. I sweat so much underneath the jacket that I have pools of sweat gather in my jacket sleeves that literally pours out of the arm hole when I'm finished. My shirt/tank/baselayer is so soaked with sweat that when I take it off the sound of it hitting the floor is the classic "just at the pool" sound. It is literally soaked to near 100% and can't absorb any more liquid. If you can create that micro-climate humidity around your skin, all the better. That's what I'm aiming for on my outside heat acclimation runs. It'll be unpleasant to do it, but worth it on race day. Now that you're past the peak of the training, now is the time to start considering the heat acclimation. It takes about 10-14 days/workouts to fully realize it. And even if the race ends up cold, it will not negatively impact you to a noticeable degree. I heat acclimated before Dopey 2016 (it was 68 with near 100% humidity) and Dopey 2017/2018 (30s) and each time ran about what I thought I would going into the race. Pretty sure 2016 was the year that when we left it was close to -50F windchill (had been training in sub-0 temps all December) and then arrived to a +100 degree change in weather in FL and handled the rapid change in temps just fine.

 

[kps7795]

When I do my heat acclimation outside, I typically wear a poorly venting jacket and dress 20-30F colder than I would under those same conditions. So if your basement is 60-65, dress like it is 30-35F. I sweat so much underneath the jacket that I have pools of sweat gather in my jacket sleeves that literally pours out of the arm hole when I'm finished. My shirt/tank/baselayer is so soaked with sweat that when I take it off the sound of it hitting the floor is the classic "just at the pool" sound. It is literally soaked to near 100% and can't absorb any more liquid. If you can create that micro-climate humidity around your skin, all the better. That's what I'm aiming for on my outside heat acclimation runs. It'll be unpleasant to do it, but worth it on race day. Now that you're past the peak of the training, now is the time to start considering the heat acclimation. It takes about 10-14 days/workouts to fully realize it. And even if the race ends up cold, it will not negatively impact you to a noticeable degree. I heat acclimated before Dopey 2016 (it was 68 with near 100% humidity) and Dopey 2017/2018 (30s) and each time ran about what I thought I would going into the race. Pretty sure 2016 was the year that when we left it was close to -50F windchill (had been training in sub-0 temps all December) and then arrived to a +100 degree change in weather in FL and handled the rapid change in temps just fine.

I got off to a late start for my last long run before the marathon on Sunday (18 miles) and during my run I was thinking about something that you previously wrote about the marathon being cut short a couple of years ago because the temperature got too hot. By the end of my run, it was 84 degrees and sunny. When they cut the race short, was it mandatory that the runners had to stop or were they given the choice whether or not to continue running? It sucked and I would have greatly preferred temperatures in the 70s, but I personally would be fine as long as I hydrate appropriately.

 

[camaker]

I got off to a late start for my last long run before the marathon on Sunday (18 miles) and during my run I was thinking about something that you previously wrote about the marathon being cut short a couple of years ago because the temperature got too hot. By the end of my run, it was 84 degrees and sunny. When they cut the race short, was it mandatory that the runners had to stop or were they given the choice whether or not to continue running? It sucked and I would have greatly preferred temperatures in the 70s, but I personally would be fine as long as I hydrate appropriately.

The race wasn’t stopped and runners weren’t pulled off course. They cut a loop out of the course, shortening it by 1.5-2 miles, if I remember correctly. Runners still crossed the finish line as long as the were able. They just didn’t complete the full 26.2 miles. If you were behind the cutoff point, though, there was no option. You were diverted with no option to run the cut off portion.

 

[Herding_Cats]

So if your basement is 60-65, dress like it is 30-35F.
Now that you're past the peak of the training, now is the time to start considering the heat acclimation. It takes about 10-14 days/workouts to fully realize it. And even if the race ends up cold, it will not negatively impact you to a noticeable degree.

I was close-ish to that 3-35 today, but not quite fully layered up.
My plan doesn't officially call for acclimation until Wednesday, but I figured I would just start it today because my body likes to be slow on the uptake for stuff.

When they cut the race short, was it mandatory that the runners had to stop or were they given the choice whether or not to continue running?

Based on everything I've read about that race:
The race was cut short in that they eliminated the blizzard beach in-and-out loop. If you were already past it when they cut the course, you still ran the whole thing. They didn't just stop people where they were and declare the race over, they just shortened the course by a couple of miles. Runners did not get to choose to still run that portion.

 

[kps7795]

I was close-ish to that 3-35 today, but not quite fully layered up.
My plan doesn't officially call for acclimation until Wednesday, but I figured I would just start it today because my body likes to be slow on the uptake for stuff.


Based on everything I've read about that race:
The race was cut short in that they eliminated the blizzard beach in-and-out loop. If you were already past it when they cut the course, you still ran the whole thing. They didn't just stop people where they were and declare the race over, they just shortened the course by a couple of miles. Runners did not get to choose to still run that portion.

I wonder how many anal people (myself included) would continue running just to get those 26.2 miles in.