Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

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All of this is 100% true. And I’ve said many times that I believe it will be safe, so I’m apart of that problem. There’s no way I can ever know that for sure until I’m physically there. Pictures and video show the experience of others, not mine. What is and isn’t safe for them could very well be the opposite if I were there.

To add on this, its like with everything else in life. If you say something is great, people will try and find anything they can to say it isn’t.

Hamilton has a lot of praise. There were a lot of people who said it was terrible last weekend. Maybe that was their real opinion, but I’d bet there were a few that wanted to be the outlier from the start
 
I agree, you can see in the video she had to walk past the line pretty close to them because of the path the line snaked down. Not going to be a big deal for some (because there are a lot of people going who think Disney is being OTT and would do less if not forced to by Disney), but for anybody expecting Disney to keep people away I
No one's pretending its the safest place to be. And NO, no one is directing you into a UNAVOIDABLE risky situation. If the situation is unsafe, you simply AVOID it; I don't care what anyone else doing or who may be directing. A little common sense goes a long way here!
i think you are spot on, except some people are definitely pretending when it comes to what’s going on in FLA...
 
The unpredictability of Florida rain is the tricky part. CMs can be trained all day long, but the guests arent in on those protocol discussions. So when rain hits suddenly as it often does in Florida, action needs to be taken swiftly. Unfortunately it takes a perfect storm of CMs in the right place at the right time where the guests they’re “in charge of” are also in a place for CMs to act swiftly.
It seems to me that there are enough quick service and live show locations that aren't open right now that they could set up contingency areas in the patios/other covered areas. I know that they don't want to encourage people being inside together, but it shouldn't be that difficult to make a few of those areas rain friendly, or even just a place for people to get shade with their masks on.
 
Last time I went to the grocery store, Wednesday 7/1 people were still touching everything with employees not coming around cleaning. People going the wrong way down aisles squeezing by one another, reaching over people. Self checkout touch screens weren’t being wiped down. And this is in an area where I havent seen a single person without a mask on or wearing it wrong. Not to mention this is all indoors. No where is completely safe. Essential or not. I’d feel more comfortable walking around an outdoor theme park for sure

I'll own up to touching things in a grocery, and not always taking them. When they have new products, I need to read the entire labels to check for my 2 allergies...if I find them, I put the product back. So, I'll touch and not take 2-3 items a trip. I'd imagine a lot of folks with dietary needs do that, and those needs probably are more important to accommodate than the reduced risk of getting the virus by touched product.
 
I know. But in that scenario indoor spaces probably fill up pretty quick, plus you more than likely find yourself walking against the crowds.

I'd love to know if disney has any kinda plan at all for the rain scenarios.

If Disney had a proactive plan against Mother Nature, they’d truly be a world powerhouse. There are far too many variables when it comes to rain to ensure guests are perfectly displaced in non close proximity situations. As I said, if you the guest sees an indoor location that looks crowded, or you’re in an indoor location where it begins to get crowded and people are getting closer to you, it’s rather easy to just leave and go elsewhere to find a safer space. Would you rather get wet from the rain for a few minutes finding a less crowded space, or stay in a spot where you’re uncomfortable? These are decisions YOU are expected to make. Disney can’t just open new indoor areas overnight. They have to make do with what they have. There’s enough indoor space in each of the parks to house all of the people in the parks without being in close quarters. For every crowded indoor area you see during a rain storm, there’s 1 indoor area somewhere in the park that’s empty
 
And I’ve said many times that I believe it will be safe, so I’m apart of that problem.
I don't see your mentality as being part of any problem. When you've said that in previous posts, we all know you weren't of the opinion that you could just waltz on down to WDW and you were going to be in some panacea of Covid-free zone? Disney is going to be safe in many ways, but there are absolutely situations that will arise that will simply need to be avoided and require a bit of common sense in the process. Disney is doing the things they need to reopen in a safe manner....many of those things they are doing very well. However, there are absolutely opportunities for improvement that are being highlighted with many of posts we're seeing here. I'm confident they will adapt and flatten their learning curve to make things even better. I just wish I was as confident in the ability of other guests to follow the rules and apply common sense to make it as safe as it can be.
 
I have to admit to being a little baffled by the rain stuff because I never let that stop me in the parks. We're weirdoes who love rain though, and we also don't have strollers and whatnot to wrangle. I keep one of those Columbia rain jackets that fold up into one of the pockets in my park sling bag along with a tiny travel umbrella. Gf has a similar jacket (we don't like ponchos because we feel like Thanksgiving turkeys in a basting bag). We also wear sandals that do well in water and dry fast, love my Tevas for those. So when rain starts we just gear up and keep going while everyone else flees.

I actually prefer the parks in the rain tbh, the only thing that's lame is when there's lightning and outdoor rides and boat transportation shuts down.
 
I'll own up to touching things in a grocery, and not always taking them. When they have new products, I need to read the entire labels to check for my 2 allergies...if I find them, I put the product back. So, I'll touch and not take 2-3 items a trip. I'd imagine a lot of folks with dietary needs do that, and those needs probably are more important to accommodate than the reduced risk of getting the virus by touched product.

And you shouldn’t feel guilty about doing that. Thats an additional safety measure that you, and plenty of people NEED to take. What I was trying to say is that it happens, and we need to stop pretending that these essential stores are bubbles in which the virus cant enter. In theory they’re safer than a theme park, but it really all depends on an individual to individual basis.
 
I think we won’t have a full sense of what the overall capacity feels like until 7/15 when all four parks are open. I’d imagine a good number of out of state people scheduled their trips for when everything is open. That will be when we can also more accurately judge resort and pool and transportation crowd levels.
I don’t think we’ll ever get a good feel for it. For all we know Disney will slowly ramp capacity as they get kinks worked out of they system like they did in Shanghai.
 
I have to admit to being a little baffled by the rain stuff because I never let that stop me in the parks. We're weirdoes who love rain though, and we also don't have strollers and whatnot to wrangle. I keep one of those Columbia rain jackets that fold up into one of the pockets in my park sling bag along with a tiny travel umbrella. Gf has a similar jacket (we don't like ponchos because we feel like Thanksgiving turkeys in a basting bag). We also wear sandals that do well in water and dry fast, love my Tevas for those. So when rain starts we just gear up and keep going while everyone else flees.

I actually prefer the parks in the rain tbh, the only thing that's lame is when there's lightning and outdoor rides and boat transportation shuts down.

Same here ... Whenever the question of "what do you do in the parks when it rains?" comes up I always just say "get wet".

Unless it is like a torrential downpour with lightnening and the wind blowing the rain sideways and stuff - otherwise just keep moving forward
 
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I have to admit to being a little baffled by the rain stuff because I never let that stop me in the parks. We're weirdoes who love rain though, and we also don't have strollers and whatnot to wrangle. I keep one of those Columbia rain jackets that fold up into one of the pockets in my park sling bag along with a tiny travel umbrella. Gf has a similar jacket (we don't like ponchos because we feel like Thanksgiving turkeys in a basting bag). We also wear sandals that do well in water and dry fast, love my Tevas for those. So when rain starts we just gear up and keep going while everyone else flees.

I actually prefer the parks in the rain tbh, the only thing that's lame is when there's lightning and outdoor rides and boat transportation shuts down.

I love the rain too. Unless its cold rain, which isnt typical in Florida. I have no issue walking around getting soaked. When the sun comes out 10 minutes later, I’ll be dry before I even get on the next ride.
 
I don’t think we’ll ever get a good feel for it. For all we know Disney will slowly ramp capacity as they get kinks worked out of they system like they did in Shanghai.

I think they had a plan in place to ramp up capacity every 2-3 weeks, and then the spike hit and now I dont know if we’ll see a capacity change until the numbers come down drastically. We’ll know if we continue to see new availability for parks reservations. But that can also be mis-leading as it could be people cancelling as well
 
The only time I recall for myself having to seek shelter was last year when there was a biblical deluge with high winds. I and several people took refuge in the Stave Church at the Norway pavilion at Epcot. It was a major storm that lasted for a while and umbrellas wouldn't have held up. So I think there will be times on occasion when everyone will need to take cover.
 
See here ... Whenever the question of "what do you do in the parks when it rains?" comes up I always just say "get wet".

Unless it is like a torrential downpour with lightnening and the wind blowing the rain sideways and stuff - otherwise just keep moving forward

Living in the Phoenix area for a couple of years kinda skewed my perception of rain I think. Once you've lived through a few of those monsoon storms in the Valley, even the worst downpour at Disney is no big deal by comparison.
 
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