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soniam said:
I read somewhere that it was Iger's decision to not base it on any currently known SW planet. So, I think the blame lies on both of them. I really liked Batuu and loved Smuggler's Run, but there is something about the land that doesn't elicit an emotional response from me like The Wizarding World does. It felt very Star Wars though. I would say that I am a bigger and longer Star Wars fan than Harry Potter. I actually think it's the lack of music for me.
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This... failure to elicit an emotional response. I consider myself a casual Star Wars fan. I've seen all of the movies. But to me, as a 30 something casual fan, with young kids (so I feel like I would be a targeted market is what I'm getting at with those stats), what elicits an emotional response in Star Wars? The original trilogy. I guess I feel that this particular universe they've gone with catches the bigger fans but my gut says original trilogy would have cast a way wider net. I would much rather ride the Falcon with Han. I get that they wanted to go with the timeline of the current movies.... but meh, it just doesn't give me that "feeling". May be there are others like me.
 
Delite said:
They priced out quick trips, extra trips. I'm waiting for after December. Nothing counts at crowd level ten. No point in blowing a grand when the main ride isn't open yet.

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The tofu is the only thing I'd try off that.
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Pricing people out for sure! Most people seem to be thinking that SWGE is the main culprit for losing attendance. In my opinion it is much much more. Disney raised to ticket prices not once but twice in the past year. AP prices soared this year. I know a lot of people don’t smoke but, a lot still do and I know a lot of people feel like that was their last straw. Having to leave the park, walk a mile, go back through security and the gate just to have a cigarette or vape is ridiculous. Resort prices are going to go up obviously but, they also started charging for nightly parking and it’s not cheap. General parking went up as well. All of these things add up very quickly!
 
firefly_ris said:
This... failure to elicit an emotional response. I consider myself a casual Star Wars fan. I've seen all of the movies. But to me, as a 30 something casual fan, with young kids (so I feel like I would be a targeted market is what I'm getting at with those stats), what elicits an emotional response in Star Wars? The original trilogy. I guess I feel that this particular universe they've gone with catches the bigger fans but my gut says original trilogy would have cast a way wider net. I would much rather ride the Falcon with Han. I get that they wanted to go with the timeline of the current movies.... but meh, it just doesn't give me that "feeling". May be there are others like me.
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Emotional responses depend on the people. The people most likely to have a bigger response to the originals than to the other two trilogies are also the oldest fans. Kids generally seem to like the newer stuff better, and they are the ones who will be around in twenty, fourty, sixty years. Long-term, it makes more sense to please the younger fans.

rteetz said:
This isn’t new news. While George is great for many reasons his vision isn’t always the best avenue as seen with the prequels.
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Heeey the prequels are amazing! :) Matter of opinion. I find the originals to be quite boring and to be less consistent with details.
 
only hope said:
Emotional responses depend on the people. The people most likely to have a bigger response to the originals than to the other two trilogies are also the oldest fans. Kids generally seem to like the newer stuff better, and they are the ones who will be around in twenty, fourty, sixty years. Long-term, it makes more sense to please the younger fans.
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That's true as well. My kids are more familiar with the original characters because they are so much more entrenched in pop culture than the newer characters are, but I guess that will change over time... and I guess other kids are more familiar with the new ones, just not my particular kids (they would recognize Darth Vader easily but I would likely have to explain who Kylo Ren is).

I guess that is the long game move as well since kids aren't buying tickets yet, but they will... if Disney can hang onto them. I understand why they went that route but for me personally there's no emotional connection. I see that big Falcon they have sitting outside and I just think "Oh yeah, Han is dead now, bummer."
 
soniam said:
I read somewhere that it was Iger's decision to not base it on any currently known SW planet. So, I think the blame lies on both of them. I really liked Batuu and loved Smuggler's Run, but there is something about the land that doesn't elicit an emotional response from me like The Wizarding World does. It felt very Star Wars though. I would say that I am a bigger and longer Star Wars fan than Harry Potter. I actually think it's the lack of music for me.
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The music is important!
 
Firebird060 said:
Well i wonder what would happen if WDW lowered AP prices if that would increase the intake of out of state AP holders making multiple visits
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Man if AP prices had stayed where they were at I think I would have made it out for October or November of this year. As it stands, I just can't make it happen if I want a longer trip later.
 
themommy said:
Pricing people out for sure! Most people seem to be thinking that SWGE is the main culprit for losing attendance. In my opinion it is much much more. Disney raised to ticket prices not once but twice in the past year. AP prices soared this year. I know a lot of people don’t smoke but, a lot still do and I know a lot of people feel like that was their last straw. Having to leave the park, walk a mile, go back through security and the gate just to have a cigarette or vape is ridiculous. Resort prices are going to go up obviously but, they also started charging for nightly parking and it’s not cheap. General parking went up as well. All of these things add up very quickly!
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As they said on DisUnplugged it was a perfect storm of issues! I think the money got to be too much and then with SWGE not opening with both rides and such it was just why bother?
 
firefly_ris said:
This... failure to elicit an emotional response. I consider myself a casual Star Wars fan. I've seen all of the movies. But to me, as a 30 something casual fan, with young kids (so I feel like I would be a targeted market is what I'm getting at with those stats), what elicits an emotional response in Star Wars? The original trilogy. I guess I feel that this particular universe they've gone with catches the bigger fans but my gut says original trilogy would have cast a way wider net. I would much rather ride the Falcon with Han. I get that they wanted to go with the timeline of the current movies.... but meh, it just doesn't give me that "feeling". May be there are others like me.
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Which is why they had the Falcon to tie it into the sequel trilogy.

My son .. who hasnt seen the sequels (only the original) is emotionally tied to the sequel trilogy .. becuase of what he sees in stores, in toys, on t-shirts, Halloween costumes.
He likes the NEW storm troopers .. he was an Executioner Trooper last Halloween.

So to my wife and I.. SWGE got it all. it was emotional to me to see the Falcon and help my son build a lightsaber and hear Yodas voice. It was extra emotional to me, because I knew who Hondo was from watching all the Star wars shows. To my son .. it was emotional to see the Falcon and see the new StormTroopers (and be interrogated by Kylo Ren himself) .. to my daughter (2yo) it was emotional to build her very own BB unit (in purple).

So even though it wasn't familiar like a Hogsmeade or Diagon Alley, it was still VERY immersive and emotional to my family.

I think they covered all their bases well. It would just be hard to do one area for a Star Wars Land since the movies covers so many different planets and cities. So t
 
MissGina5 said:
Man if AP prices had stayed where they were at I think I would have made it out for October or November of this year. As it stands, I just can't make it happen if I want a longer trip later.
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THIS: I live a days drive away and I bought an AP early in 2018 for a Nov. to Nov. run. Specifically to catch the opening of SWGE. It worked. We have gone on multiple trips. And with the rising normal ticket prices and addition of the day to day pricing, it was worth it.
So while they lost money on us on tickets (we saved a ton for as many park days as we have (and will) gone during our AP, they MADE money on us with 3 trips (staying at Disney resort) and one quick unplanned trip for the SWGE preview.

If i hadnt found the AP affordable we may have only gone maybe once or twice in a years time, not FOUR.

With the price going up $300/person and having to buy another one for my 3yo, they priced us out of APs. We may go in 2020 once .. but no more .. and may wait until 2021 .. who knows. .

If Disney is worried about attendance, all they need to do is LOWER prices of things like AP and they will get people to come back.
 
tlmadden73 said:
Which is why they had the Falcon to tie it into the sequel trilogy.

My son .. who hasnt seen the sequels (only the original) is emotionally tied to the sequel trilogy .. becuase of what he sees in stores, in toys, on t-shirts, Halloween costumes.
He likes the NEW storm troopers .. he was an Executioner Trooper last Halloween.

So to my wife and I.. SWGE got it all. it was emotional to me to see the Falcon and help my son build a lightsaber and hear Yodas voice. It was extra emotional to me, because I knew who Hondo was from watching all the Star wars shows. To my son .. it was emotional to see the Falcon and see the new StormTroopers (and be interrogated by Kylo Ren himself) .. to my daughter (2yo) it was emotional to build her very own BB unit (in purple).

So even though it wasn't familiar like a Hogsmeade or Diagon Alley, it was still VERY immersive and emotional to my family.

I think they covered all their bases well. It would just be hard to do one area for a Star Wars Land since the movies covers so many different planets and cities. So t
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I think the way you experienced it / view it is exactly how Disney wants families to view it ...

... But I think Disney underestimated the "originally trilogy only fans" that don't care about any of the new stuff ... They want to be "in the original trilogies" way more than wanting to be "in the broader Star Wars Universe"
 
TheMaxRebo said:
I think the way you experienced it / view it is exactly how Disney wants families to view it ...

... But I think Disney underestimated the "originally trilogy only fans" that don't care about any of the new stuff ... They want to be "in the original trilogies" way more than wanting to be "in the broader Star Wars Universe"
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It seems like it will be a long game for them and I think even we as fans expected it to be a much more instant hit
 
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