Maximum Night Stay Being Enforced At Select Resort(s) for Select Dates

kp5746

Earning My Ears
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My family has planned a trip to Disney World for 10/13-20/2017, which I know is a popular time at Disney. Many months ago I booked a room at a higher price point than I wanted in hopes I would be able to apply a room-only discount for the general public or annual passholder. I missed the general public option so I decided to change our resort to a value. So a few days ago I began my quest to book at Pop Century to be among friends who are also traveling that week. Pop Century was not available for the 7 nights, however, I had no trouble getting into any of the All-Star resorts. Curious, I began searching for the first 6 nights at Pop Century and then for last night at Pop Century giving me the entire 7 nights. To my surprise, Pop Century had availability for all nights for 2 of the room types.

I called reservations and explained my situation and asked if they could make the entire 7 night reservation for me. The answer was 'no, not with one reservation.' It was explained to me that I had exceeded the maximum night stay at this resort and would need to book 2 separate reservations. Many questions raced through my head like "I have made many reservations in the past for as many as 11 nights and never encountered this" and "I was just able to book at the All-Star resorts for 7 nights". The Cast Member continued to explain that each resort manager has the option of choosing maximum night thresholds for any periods throughout the year and that this policy has been in effect for many years, however, manager's never utilized it. The insinuation further into the conversation was that Disney was now holding manager's accountable for showing some discretion and enforcing maximum night thresholds.

The Cast Member then had to get Guest Services on the line in order to merge the 2 reservations to ensure we would not have to move rooms, the general reservation specialist cannot do it. I was advised this is the new policy for Disney going forward and expect other resorts to follow suit. So, in the future, I won't be able to simply make a resort room reservation online if I encounter this problem again, I would eventually need to call and have the reservations merged. I am struggling to understand the business decision being made for guests staying more than 6 nights so can anyone break it down for me? Not upset, just really want to understand the 'why'.
 
I think this might be a case of either a misinformed CM or a miscommunication.

I have a reservation in September for a 2 night stay at All Star Sports followed by a 5 night stay at All Star Sports. They can't merge them for me because there was no availability for 7 consecutive nights, so I'll have to (likely) switch rooms (I'll ask again when its closer if they can merge them, but one is a discount and the other isn't so probably not). THAT might be what is really happening with your reservation.

I know that you can stay longer a Pop than 6 days. We stayed 10 days in April. We've stayed 10 days many times. The 'maximum' stay is something like 21 days or 30 days, not 6. HOWEVER, there may well be a shorter Maximum stay that can be applied to certain discounts.

OR the CM might just be flat out wrong. It's disheartening to me to hear how much bad information CM on the phone seem to give out. I've had some tell me things that I knew were flat out wrong.
 
That happened to me for bay lake tower. I could only get a day or two at a time xmas week! Lots of prepayments required to get the full week!
 
Hum might need to look into this-was having lots of trouble pulling up the new fall rates and this might be something that is happening with me. Will research and post back.
 


I would be surprised this is indeed a new policy. As other pointed out, more likely, there was no single room availability on the system for the whole of your stay. It might happen occasionally on popular dates, as some rooms are blocked in advance to ensure some combinations (connecting rooms for 1-2 adults with many kids in their own room for example).
 
For both my September and December trips I have run into a similar issue. For September, I put in my full 10 day stretch and no go, for anything that I wanted any way. So, I put in 9 days, still nothing. Then I put in 8 days and could get what I wanted. Split stay doesn't bother me, so I put in the remaining 2 days and sure enough same resort is available--have 2 reservations and 2 deposits for the exact same resort. Called Disney and the person who answers says "yes" we can do that, but has to be done by Guest Relations; puts me on hold and calls Guest Relations; in a few minutes comes back and says "voila" complete! Shows up minutes later correct on my MDE account. Same thing happened for December. My recommendations, try every possible combination until you get what you want online, then call Disney and have them fix it--if they say "no", ask to speak to Guest Relations or hang up and call back and request Guest Relations directly--I assume the call directly works--never really tried since the reservations usually calls for me.
 
Whatever their "enhanced" booking system update was has really screwed the system. I'm finding so much less availability for 4 days and then suddenly 5 days everything opens up. Fine I get it you want to maximize profit but at this stage people aren't suddenly going to add a day. Same thing for Fiance who is trying to do just 3 days. I could understand if we were checking out on Monday or Tuesday but we are both trying to book weekend rooms whihc should be common. Mine is a check in Thursday check out Sunday his is check in Friday check out Sunday. Add the Monday in and suddenly tons of availability. Want to check out Sunday and there is nothing.
 


I would be surprised this is indeed a new policy. As other pointed out, more likely, there was no single room availability on the system for the whole of your stay. It might happen occasionally on popular dates, as some rooms are blocked in advance to ensure some combinations (connecting rooms for 1-2 adults with many kids in their own room for example).
Disney doesn't block rooms in advance to insure connecting rooms. Connecting rooms are NEVER assured
 
Disney doesn't block rooms in advance to insure connecting rooms. Connecting rooms are NEVER assured

An adult traveling with kids on their own room are granted a room type specifically issued for handling this case. I think it is called ”connecting room guaranteed”. This is typically hidden from guests, though I remember when they rolled online check-in there was a glitch where you could select this requirement for some hotels (of course it was not intended of being available).
 
An adult traveling with kids on their own room are granted a room type specifically issued for handling this case. I think it is called ”connecting room guaranteed”. This is typically hidden from guests, though I remember when they rolled online check-in there was a glitch where you could select this requirement for some hotels (of course it was not intended of being available).
I disagree. Connecting rooms are NEVER guaranteed, regardless of what a CM on the phone, or your confirmation states.
There are Many posters here on the DIS with horror stories to tell.
You post stated 1-2 adults and children. 2 adults can each separate, one per room with children.
They will certainly try to accommodate you. But it is not guaranteed
 
Well, that would explain why I haven't been able to book BLT for a week next Spring. If I look at Saturday to Saturday, they show zero availability for one bedroom villas. BUT, I can book a 1 bd TPV villa for Saturday to Friday, and I can book a 1 bd TPV villa for that Friday night. So, clearly there is availability in this category for the entire week, and it does not have to do with a discount because this is all at rack rate!

Seriously, Disney? Do I really have to spend 45 minutes on hold on the phone for the privilege of booking a $900/night room for 7 nights instead of 6?
 
Well, that would explain why I haven't been able to book BLT for a week next Spring. If I look at Saturday to Saturday, they show zero availability for one bedroom villas. BUT, I can book a 1 bd TPV villa for Saturday to Friday, and I can book a 1 bd TPV villa for that Friday night. So, clearly there is availability in this category for the entire week, and it does not have to do with a discount because this is all at rack rate!

Seriously, Disney? Do I really have to spend 45 minutes on hold on the phone for the privilege of booking a $900/night room for 7 nights instead of 6?
Funny, I was looking today for next April and encountered many "unavailable" resorts when I was looking for 8 days. Thought there was just a glitch in the system. A few days ago there was availability but I was using a shorter stay.
 
Strange. We booked our trip back in April and didn't run into this problem. We always stay for around 10 days.

If this is true...it will cause a lot if frustration to customers and cast members alike. Seems to make no logical sense to me. Longer stay = more money, so why wouldn't they want you to be able to book longer?
 
I can see them wanting shorter stays in terms of parks admission, since people tend to spend less on a 10th day than they do on a 1st or 2nd day. But I would think a hotel would want longer days since they won't have to deep clean the rooms as often. Given that they are in the business of filling rooms, I find this perplexing.

Oddly enough a few years back I had trouble booking a room at one of the DLR resorts. I couldn't get it on a shorter stay, but when I extended my dates out to 7 or 8 nights I could (so the exact opposite problem). And the strange part is that DLR only sells up to a 5 day park ticket. So the inverse of WDW.
 
That happened to me for bay lake tower. I could only get a day or two at a time xmas week! Lots of prepayments required to get the full week!
Exactly - I was asked to pay the down payment for each reservation so I declined and said I would just stay at the All-Stars but they did waive that requirement this time - but I got the message that it wouldn't happen the next time :)
 
I would be surprised this is indeed a new policy. As other pointed out, more likely, there was no single room availability on the system for the whole of your stay. It might happen occasionally on popular dates, as some rooms are blocked in advance to ensure some combinations (connecting rooms for 1-2 adults with many kids in their own room for example).
The room was available. The Guest Services person confirmed that and that I was running into a max stay issue. The reason came down to the resort manager chose October to be busy enough to limit the number of nights on one reservation. I am still struggling to understand the "why"... :)
 
Well, that would explain why I haven't been able to book BLT for a week next Spring. If I look at Saturday to Saturday, they show zero availability for one bedroom villas. BUT, I can book a 1 bd TPV villa for Saturday to Friday, and I can book a 1 bd TPV villa for that Friday night. So, clearly there is availability in this category for the entire week, and it does not have to do with a discount because this is all at rack rate!

Seriously, Disney? Do I really have to spend 45 minutes on hold on the phone for the privilege of booking a $900/night room for 7 nights instead of 6?
I know, right? they did a nice job fixing everything for me but it was an effort.
 
I think this might be a case of either a misinformed CM or a miscommunication.

I have a reservation in September for a 2 night stay at All Star Sports followed by a 5 night stay at All Star Sports. They can't merge them for me because there was no availability for 7 consecutive nights, so I'll have to (likely) switch rooms (I'll ask again when its closer if they can merge them, but one is a discount and the other isn't so probably not). THAT might be what is really happening with your reservation.

I know that you can stay longer a Pop than 6 days. We stayed 10 days in April. We've stayed 10 days many times. The 'maximum' stay is something like 21 days or 30 days, not 6. HOWEVER, there may well be a shorter Maximum stay that can be applied to certain discounts.

OR the CM might just be flat out wrong. It's disheartening to me to hear how much bad information CM on the phone seem to give out. I've had some tell me things that I knew were flat out wrong.
I think the key here is that October is a very busy time.
 

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