Valet Parking with Tag when disabled person not with you

benji2012 · Dec 3, 2016

My DBF is recently disabled to do cancer (including spinal tumors). he can walk short distances, but uses an electric wheelchair most of the time. He has a handicap parking hag tag from our state/doctor. When we were at Boardwalk in October, we received free valet parking; however I never left the resort without him.

We are hopefully going in February (Kidani) and October (Boardwalk).

It is possible that I may leave with the car, without him, on one of these trips. Is there a different protocol in those situations?

Topper · Dec 3, 2016

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TheRustyScupper · Dec 4, 2016

1) It is against THE LAW to use a Handicap Placard without the handicapped person being INSIDE the vehicle (as driver or passenger).
2) This includes long trips, short trips, and parking spots
3) If you are caught driving, the penalty is steep in dollars and "driver license points" (and resulting insurance increases).
4) Disney Valet CM's have the right to verify the Placard is assigned to someone in the car if they suspect abuse.
5) That is why most states, including Florida, now have a cross-reference to a person on the tag.

disney david · Dec 4, 2016

It not against the law when it comes to valet parking it against the law to park in a spot without a tag or miss use it. Disney gives free valet parking to guest with the tags which they don't have to by law and they don't say you can't do what the op wants. Since the fed or Florida dose not require Disney to do it then ocso can't enforce the law like with the parking spots.

Now Disney dose have the right to set limits like tag owners have be in the car use it or other things like that.

And valet cms only have acces to asking for your id to Verfy and if they even do that. But they don't have they equipment as the ocso has to make sure it real. Your setting up your fellow cms to get hurt or in trouble.

DisneyOma · Dec 4, 2016

What's the purpose behind the free valet parking at WDW for the disabled? Is it because parking is not close to the entrance?

OP, why not just pay for the parking if the person is not with you?

Happyinwonerland · Dec 4, 2016

It sounds like OP is asking can she pick up th car from valet without the handicapped person with her, is that right? And then drop it off so that next time when handicapped person IS with her, it will be accessible. It does not sound like OP was trying to scam anything, just make a trip by herself once without making it harder for the BF on the next trip.

redberyl · Dec 4, 2016

When I go to school to pick up my daughter, she is obviously not with me when I park but I park in handicapped spot anyway .Because she will be with me when I leave the building and she can't walk the whole way across the parking lot. Likewise when I drop her off she's with me when I park but Ileave the building and I walk to that handicapped spot without her. This is the same thing you need to have the car close by because he will need it As long as he is with you one way you are fine and not abusing the privilege.

Maggie'sMom · Dec 4, 2016

TheRustyScupper said:
3) If you are caught driving, the penalty is steep in dollars and "driver license points" (and resulting insurance increases).

How is it against the law to simply drive with the HC tag without the HC person being in the vehicle? What about cars with the HC plates instead of the hanging placard? Your saying that car could never be driven without the HC person in the car? I thought the HC plates/placards were only applicable to parking. What about the PP's situation where she is dropping off or picking up her disabled daughter? I don't think the law is exactly how you state it. I'm sure a person can't be given points on their license for driving a car with HC plates if they aren't parking in a HC spot. And if the driver explains they are dropping off or picking up the person the tag is assigned to, that is fine too.

I understand why the OP might want to be able to drive the car without DBF but still use the valet parking so the car will be available for the next trip when DBF will be in the car. I don't know exactly how WDW would handle that. It could go either way. Best thing to do would be to talk to the valets at the resort and ask how to handle it. it might mean you would have to self park the car when DBF isn't with you and then go get the car without DBF and pick him up for the next trip.

gap2368 · Dec 4, 2016

I think if the person that the handicap sticker is assinded to is in the car either at the begging or end of your use if the valet parking you should be ok

How ever Disney is not required by law ( or at lest I do not think so) to give handicap guess free valet parking and there for can stop the practice of free valet parking.

I would have some cash on hand in case they say you have to pay since the person is not in the car when you pick it up.

Simba's Mom · Dec 4, 2016

gap2368 said:
I think if the person that the handicap sticker is assinded to is in the car either at the begging or end of your use if the valet parking you should be ok

I asked this same question a few months ago and this is the answer I got. I'm disabled and would be with DH when we park the car at the resort. But then, I would be staying in our resort room when DH goes out in the car. So I'd be there for the "beginning" but not the "end". Fortunately, there were HA spots in the resort self-parking lot that we used, never used valet.

maxiesmom · Dec 4, 2016

benji2012 said:
My DBF is recently disabled to do cancer (including spinal tumors). he can walk short distances, but uses an electric wheelchair most of the time. He has a handicap parking hag tag from our state/doctor. When we were at Boardwalk in October, we received free valet parking; however I never left the resort without him.

We are hopefully going in February (Kidani) and October (Boardwalk).

It is possible that I may leave with the car, without him, on one of these trips. Is there a different protocol in those situations?

If he is not going to be with you on either end of the trip you cannot use the tag. It is illegal. If he will be with you one way then yes, use the tag.

TheRustyScupper · Dec 4, 2016

Maggie'sMom said:
How is it against the law to simply drive with the HC tag without the HC person being in the vehicle? What about cars with the HC plates instead of the hanging placard? Your saying that car could never be driven without the HC person in the car? I thought the HC plates/placards were only applicable to parking.

1) Driving on the road in a normal fashion is fine.
2) But, if you use the handicap placard (or tag) for any purpose designed for privilege (like parking or express lanes) it is illegal.
3) I have known far too many handicapped people that were inconvenienced by folks improperly using the placard/tag.
4) I, personally, think it is a good law.

DisneyOma · Dec 4, 2016

Happyinwonerland said:
It sounds like OP is asking can she pick up th car from valet without the handicapped person with her, is that right? And then drop it off so that next time when handicapped person IS with her, it will be accessible. It does not sound like OP was trying to scam anything, just make a trip by herself once without making it harder for the BF on the next trip.

I'm just thinking that a round trip is being made without the disabled person in the vehicle. To me, that sounds like a need to pay for valet parking, as the disabled person is not getting anything out of the service, they are not in the car at all.

Happyinwonerland · Dec 4, 2016

DisneyOma said:
I'm just thinking that a round trip is being made without the disabled person in the vehicle. To me, that sounds like a need to pay for valet parking, as the disabled person is not getting anything out of the service, they are not in the car at all.

To me it sounds like this:
Trip A: OP and DBF from park to hotel, using free valet.
Trip B: Just op to destination and then back to hotel, using valet to parm.
Trip C: OP and BF, valet

If OP skips valet on trip B, then trip C will be considerably harder for OP's DBF.

At the end of the day, OP using free valet doesn't effect me one little bit, so I think she should do what she feels is best for her dbf.

kaytieeldr · Dec 4, 2016

Happyinwonerland said:
If OP skips valet on trip B, then trip C will be considerably harder for OP's DBF.

Then the proper option (especially to avoid any appearance of abusing this perq) would be to park in standard parking upon solo return, and drive to the resort entrance to pick up the placard holder for the next trip.

Happyinwonerland · Dec 4, 2016

kaytieeldr said:
Then the proper option (especially to avoid any appearance of abusing this perq) would be to park in standard parking upon solo return, and drive to the resort entrance to pick up the placard holder for the next trip.

So then her dbf has to wait extra time for her to do your song and dance, just to make you feel better about what you call a perk? This is not a perk, this is an accomodation Disney makes in order to help guests with disabilities get around more easily, since it takes them much more effort/energy to do so. I am sure anyone with a disability would gladly trade this "perk" to return to 100%health/ability.

OP, park wherever it would be easiest for you DBF to access the car. Enjoy your trip!

kaytieeldr · Dec 4, 2016

Free valet parking with a disabled placard is absolutely a perk. The ADA requires equal, not superior, access. Disney doesn't have to offer free valet parking, therefore it's a perk.

See RustyScupper's post above for the conditions for using a handicapped parking space in Florida.

DisneyOma · Dec 5, 2016

Happyinwonerland said:
To me it sounds like this:
Trip A: OP and DBF from park to hotel, using free valet.
Trip B: Just op to destination and then back to hotel, using valet to parm.
Trip C: OP and BF, valet

If OP skips valet on trip B, then trip C will be considerably harder for OP's DBF.

At the end of the day, OP using free valet doesn't effect me one little bit, so I think she should do what she feels is best for her dbf.

I don't understand what you mean by trips A,B and C, especially when you have all three listed as using valet parking. How would that be harder? Valet parking is valet parking. It isn't "harder" on anyone if you pay for it. I suggested paying for the round trip that does not involve the disabled person because people who are not disabled pay for valet parking.

Happyinwonerland · Dec 5, 2016

DisneyOma said:
I don't understand what you mean by trips A,B and C, especially when you have all three listed as using valet parking. How would that be harder? Valet parking is valet parking. It isn't "harder" on anyone if you pay for it. I suggested paying for the round trip that does not involve the disabled person because people who are not disabled pay for valet parking.

But she is using the valet parking to make it easier on the disabled person. I dohbt she'd be using valet if she didn't need to have the car more accessible to her DBf

gap2368 · Dec 5, 2016

no one n here can tell her if she will need to pay for parking if your BF is not with her for one full trip ( and she never really said her BF will not be with her for a full trip yes it is implied ) but when she goes to get the car if her BF is not with her then it will be up to the CM to decide if she need to pay, now she can exsplain why she thinks she should not have to pay and they can decide if she dose. I think any one using the free disabled parking should have many to pay for it incase Disney decides to stop this practice of free valet parking ( then you will not have to worry about well can I do XYZ for free)

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