Curse you CoViD!

So sorry you caught it too. I hope your doctor can give you something to speed up the healing process.
 
So sorry you caught it too. I hope your doctor can give you something to speed up the healing process.
Unfortunately, I'm on some meds that react violently with off-the-shelf pain killers, so no Paracetamol, Ibuprofen and DEFINITELY Codeine! As I said though, I'm hopeful this bug will get squashed in a day or two... these latest strains are no-where NEAR as dangerous as the old ones, statistically speaking. Mind you, that's no reason not to pay the illness some respect...
 
H was very sick 1 1/2 weeks ago, tested but it was negative. I got it a few days later and didn’t test. We are both still sick but no longer dying, just a very bad cold. There was no way I was leaving the house! And now I’m having trouble tasting things…
Way way waaaaaayyyy back in January of 2020, I had a terrible awful cold. Usually I take some over the counter stuff and move on. The usual stuff didn't help. I felt wiped out, boxes of tissues. I saw dr a few weeks later, (just before the big shut down.) And he mentioned, yes colds have been really bad this year. I've always wonder what if????????
 
Way way waaaaaayyyy back in January of 2020, I had a terrible awful cold. Usually I take some over the counter stuff and move on. The usual stuff didn't help. I felt wiped out, boxes of tissues. I saw dr a few weeks later, (just before the big shut down.) And he mentioned, yes colds have been really bad this year. I've always wonder what if????????
Our DS was sicker than he'd ever been in his life at Christmas of 2019 - just before "everything". I'm firmly convinced it was Covid. Funny though - we had out-of-town company in for the holidays that year and fairly close quarters. None of the rest of us got sick. Fast-forward to Christmas of 2022. What we now know as Covid finally caught up with my household. A guest, DH and DS were all sick with symptoms mostly like a sinus cold and the guest with a horrific cough. I was completely asymptomatic and would never have even known if we didn't all test. :confused3
 
Hmm. Now there's a VERY faint line next to "T" - hardly anything, but it's there
Oh that is a positive, maybe take a photo with your phone and blow it up to see it clearly & consider setting up your space to care for yourself like making sure you have Gatorade and ready to eat food.

That Plaxlovid helped me so much and I'd do it again in a heartbeat, even with the rebound which I think is just an extended infection. The taste wasn't that big a deal compared to the illness which tore me to shreds, everyone is different so I understand people not wanting it but I am very grateful I had it.
 
even with the rebound which I think is just an extended infection.
I had a bad rebound case with paxlovid. It is more than an extended infection.

https://www.massgeneralbrigham.org/...xperience-rebound-covid-after-taking-paxlovid

Patients who tested positive for COVID-19 after previously testing negative and those who exhibited two consecutive increases in viral loads following an initial reduction were classified as experiencing virologic rebound.

They also plan to investigate the biological mechanism behind the rebound phenomenon associated with Paxlovid and determine if changing the regimen length could help combat this rebound effect.
 
I had a bad rebound case with paxlovid. It is more than an extended infection.

https://www.massgeneralbrigham.org/...xperience-rebound-covid-after-taking-paxlovid

Patients who tested positive for COVID-19 after previously testing negative and those who exhibited two consecutive increases in viral loads following an initial reduction were classified as experiencing virologic rebound.

They also plan to investigate the biological mechanism behind the rebound phenomenon associated with Paxlovid and determine if changing the regimen length could help combat this rebound effect.
I was given Paxlovid twice, once for each round of the same infection & honestly believe I would have died without having it both times so maybe it isn't perfect but I am still here.

It is fine you feel as you do but if you are not compromised you might consider being VERY careful about the messaging you send in case you are discouraging people who might be very different from you from listening to their Drs. I am very different from you & am not exaggerating, it was marching into my lungs, I could feel it and I was a heartbeat away from Intensive care but that medicine worked within hours and gave my body time and a chance. I was positive for 30 days but was able to stay home, someone like me is at very high risk in a hospital setting, it is easy for me to catch another thing and then what...

I agree with you that the issue still needs attention but for many people it is the best option and sometimes the only option.

Not saying you aren't right for you, just saying cautiously consider the wider audience and how people can be influenced. Where a person lands is between them and their Dr.
 
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I think the important thing is to listen to your own doctor instead of a bunch of random people on the internet. Your doctor knows what medications you are on, and how they may interact with the treatment options available. One size does not fit all when it comes to treating any disease or condition. The internet has a tendency to cloud the issue because everyone has different ideas about what does or does not work, based on their own experiences. It doesn’t mean their experiences are wrong, simply that they could be very wrong for you.
 
Way way waaaaaayyyy back in January of 2020, I had a terrible awful cold. Usually I take some over the counter stuff and move on. The usual stuff didn't help. I felt wiped out, boxes of tissues. I saw dr a few weeks later, (just before the big shut down.) And he mentioned, yes colds have been really bad this year. I've always wonder what if????????

I worked in an inner city Children’s hospital then. There were a lot of respiratory infections that winter. In January, something went thru almost all our staff. Come March, most of the nurses were convinced they must have had Covid. Our hospital offered testing for Covid antibodies that spring. Not even 1 person had antibodies, meaning, no, it wasn’t Covid everyone had in January.

So many people think the same thing, that they probably had it that winter. My thought….Covid did not hit all the healthy adults in December 2019 - February 2020, then come back to hospitalize & kill the elderly, obese, diabetics etc in March. Unless you were in Asia or Europe in December & January, you didn’t have Covid.
 
I was given Paxlovid twice, once for each round of the same infection & honestly believe I would have died without having it both times so maybe it isn't perfect but I am still here.

It is fine you feel as you do but if you are not compromised you might consider being VERY careful about the messaging you send in case you are discouraging people who might be very different from you from listening to their Drs. I am very different from you & am not exaggerating, it was marching into my lungs, I could feel it and I was a heartbeat away from Intensive care but that medicine worked within hours and gave my body time and a chance. I was positive for 30 days but was able to stay home, someone like me is at very high risk in a hospital setting, it is easy for me to catch another thing and then what...

I agree with you that the issue still needs attention but for many people it is the best option and sometimes the only option.

Not saying you aren't right for you, just saying cautiously consider the wider audience and how people can be influenced. Where a person lands is between them and their Dr.
Who’s to say that my experience with my rebound case of Covid wasn’t as bad as your experiences with Covid?

My experience is that people can be dismissive of rebound Covid, if they realize it can happen at all. I know I wasn’t warned about it. So here, my messaging is to be aware it can happen and that I, personally won’t take it again. Not sure how that is different or worse than hearing the other side of the coin which is many saying one should take it.

I have never, btw, said someone shouldn’t take it, I just think it’s important to be informed about it, because when it hits you, as it does in more that 20% of people who take it, it can be both frightening and frustrating. Knowledge is power.

Our state (and I assume many other states) had a hotline you could call to get the medication sent to your home after a few questions, so I think that “between you and your doctor” is a bit of a misnomer. These are random practitioners prescribing this stuff who really don’t know you and aren’t privy to your medical records in many cases.

My original case of Covid was super mild but my rebound case post Paxlovid treatment was awful requiring medical intervention and additional use of sick days, etc. I had negative testing and was on my way back to work when I got hit with a cascade of new and different symptoms than earlier and was shocked and disappointed to see a positive test again.

That is my experience and I think it should be heard. As with any of this Covid stuff, people need to inform themselves and then do what is best for them and their families.
 
I worked in an inner city Children’s hospital then. There were a lot of respiratory infections that winter. In January, something went thru almost all our staff. Come March, most of the nurses were convinced they must have had Covid. Our hospital offered testing for Covid antibodies that spring. Not even 1 person had antibodies, meaning, no, it wasn’t Covid everyone had in January.

So many people think the same thing, that they probably had it that winter. My thought….Covid did not hit all the healthy adults in December 2019 - February 2020, then come back to hospitalize & kill the elderly, obese, diabetics etc in March. Unless you were in Asia or Europe in December & January, you didn’t have Covid.
Maybe you and your co-workers didnt have Covid, but DH and his drs. believe he had it the end of Jan 2020. We had not traveled out of state or internationally prior to him getting sick. He was the sickest I've seen him in 25+ years. He stopped at the ER on his way home from work with difficulty breathing. All testing came back negative. But even with breathing treatments they couldnt get his oxygen level out of low 90s. We live close to the hospital and he is a paramedic so they sent him home and told him to return if things got worse. He didnt get worse, but during the illnesses he complained he couldn't taste or smell anything.
In late April or early May they tested all employees for Covid antibodies, he had them. That was the only time he was sick.
When discussing things with his dr. at an unrelated appt. They told him they believe he had Covid in Jan.
 
Maybe you and your co-workers didnt have Covid, but DH and his drs. believe he had it the end of Jan 2020. We had not traveled out of state or internationally prior to him getting sick. He was the sickest I've seen him in 25+ years. He stopped at the ER on his way home from work with difficulty breathing. All testing came back negative. But even with breathing treatments they couldnt get his oxygen level out of low 90s. We live close to the hospital and he is a paramedic so they sent him home and told him to return if things got worse. He didnt get worse, but during the illnesses he complained he couldn't taste or smell anything.
In late April or early May they tested all employees for Covid antibodies, he had them. That was the only time he was sick.
When discussing things with his dr. at an unrelated appt. They told him they believe he had Covid in Jan.


Sorry, I stand corrected on who might have had it. However, it’s very possible as a paramedic your husband was exposed/ attended to someone who had traveled & contracted it that way. That makes much more sense than everyone I hear who was sick that winter being sure they must have had Covid.
 
Who’s to say that my experience with my rebound case of Covid wasn’t as bad as your experiences with Covid?

My experience is that people can be dismissive of rebound Covid, if they realize it can happen at all. I know I wasn’t warned about it. So here, my messaging is to be aware it can happen and that I, personally won’t take it again. Not sure how that is different or worse than hearing the other side of the coin which is many saying one should take it.

I have never, btw, said someone shouldn’t take it, I just think it’s important to be informed about it, because when it hits you, as it does in more that 20% of people who take it, it can be both frightening and frustrating. Knowledge is power.

Our state (and I assume many other states) had a hotline you could call to get the medication sent to your home after a few questions, so I think that “between you and your doctor” is a bit of a misnomer. These are random practitioners prescribing this stuff who really don’t know you and aren’t privy to your medical records in many cases.

My original case of Covid was super mild but my rebound case post Paxlovid treatment was awful requiring medical intervention and additional use of sick days, etc. I had negative testing and was on my way back to work when I got hit with a cascade of new and different symptoms than earlier and was shocked and disappointed to see a positive test again.

That is my experience and I think it should be heard. As with any of this Covid stuff, people need to inform themselves and then do what is best for them and their families.
Maybe I could have been softer, yes, you should be heard.

For many people Paxlovid is an opt in or opt out thing, I understand this to be true, but for many other people getting hung up on side effects is a dangerous game. I am not dismissive of the rebound I had it too and it was not good but I'm still alive so the medicine did what it was supposed to do messy as it was, not everyone is able to fight this beast off. There is no doubt in my mind I wouldn't have made it on my own. Covid was so fast and so brutal I understood completely what people were experiencing back in early 2020 when they woke up, keeled over and that was it game over, they never even had a chance to say goodbye to loved ones. Paxlovid absolutely saved my life, people who need it shouldn't be afraid of it.

Hopefully, there will be fine tuning of treatments and new medications introduced especially for the people who can't take the Paxlovid because of drug interactions and all,
 
We had a run-in with Covid yesterday....hopefully we won't get it, but my 92 year old FIL has it. We saw him on Christmas and figured were supposed to as well tomorrow for the NY, so it wasn't unusual that we didn't hear from him for a few days. His best buddy called me last night around 7pm to let me know that FIL had been in bed all day with aches and chills and wasn't answering his phone so he went over to check on him. We grabbed our N-95s...picked up some meds, a thermometer and a covid test and headed down. No fever, just shaking chills, aches and fatigue. Tested positive for covid.

Gave him two Advil, fluids and called his doctor to see what she thought. While waiting for doc to call back I started calling around to pharmacies in case she prescribed paxlovid. After finding one open and told they were out, found another that had some. However, the pharmacy tech informed me that if my FIL *had* medicare Part D, the prescription would be....$1,700 out of pocket!!! I thought she misspoke and figured she meant that if he *didn't* have Medicare Part D....but nope, she was correct. Apparently now these drug companies are no longer giving away these meds (meaning the government is no longer paying for it), and so they can charge whatever they want. The reason it's not covered at all by medicare is because paxlovid still falls under the "emergency authorized use" umbrella, and so medicare can't cover it.

All of this turned out to be moot for our circumstances. The doc called back and said prefers not to prescribe it as she's seen so many rebound cases. By the time we left FIL he was feeling a bit better from the Advil and we got him back to bed. Still, I was just dumbfounded that the people who may really benefit from paxlovid....and are in the 80% of medicare recipients that shell out extra for prescription coverage....effectively can't get it, because they can't afford it. Plus, they may need a second script to knock it out....so a $3,400 bill. It seems that paxlovid has been out for a long time so I was left wondering why it still only has EAU status and isn't fully approved. Maybe all of those rebound cases are part of the reason.
 
Sorry, I stand corrected on who might have had it. However, it’s very possible as a paramedic your husband was exposed/ attended to someone who had traveled & contracted it that way. That makes much more sense than everyone I hear who was sick that winter being sure they must have had Covid.
We'll really never know, will we? Anybody living in a place with a constant stream of in-bound international travellers and with extensive exposure to the public could have contracted it during the early days. Our city's international airport is one of the major hubs into Canada from Asia.
 

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