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It is possible when the allegations came from more credible sources they reached out to those individuals directly as part of an intern investigation.
I seriously doubt that DU has anything close to an HR or legal department capable of doing an internal investigation. If it had, action would have been taken long ago. JL would not have been fired over the mere accusation of theft when she had the receipts to show the falsehood of the allegation. The bullying would not have been allowed to continue. This whole mess is largely the result of the Wild West nature of the company with no semblance of an HR Department.
 
You realize that Pete owned the company right? Who would be in a position to fire him?
Yes I realize that, he owned it with two other partners. Usually in private companies, there are these things called Shareholder Agreements. Such agreements usually lay out terms, including provisions for buyouts, clauses related to behavior, how you can be forced to sell to your partners or a third party etc. So yes, you can be forced out, especially if you are up against 'partners' with more money than you (which I assume is the case here). I don't know the board of directors structure of dreams, but in a company with three owners, likely each had a board seat. Subject to the by-laws, it is likely that naming CEO or any officer was nominated by the board and voted on by shareholders; again, if you are outnumbered, probably easier to just resign since he could have been removed most likely.
 
I seriously doubt that DU has anything close to an HR or legal department capable of doing an internal investigation. If it had, action would have been taken long ago. JL would not have been fired over the mere accusation of theft when she had the receipts to show the falsehood of the allegation. The bullying would not have been allowed to continue. This whole mess is largely the result of the Wild West nature of the company with no semblance of an HR Department.

I just used corporate speak words. I just meant delay from Sean and Dustin's accusations to Pete stepping down and being devested was probably so they could confirm the accusations actually came from Sean and Dustin. I think while it is all bad the bullying and toxic work place wasn't part of their decision making.

This or it was because people started posting they were going to pull their bookings if Pete was gaining anything money wise from future bookings.
 
The amex legal case was filed in March and if you read it fully it does appear that Dreams was caught off guard, or at least that is what they claim in their response from June 2023.
People are tending to overread that part. It is nothing more than a boilerplate affirmative defense. It is asserted in the Answer in every case like this. In a company of this size, it seems impossible for Dreams to have been caught off guard when Dreams = Pete.
 
I know there are confirmed accounts on the other site and the allegations are legitimate, but geez some of the people on that site make the player haters from Chapelle show look like nice people. I didn't know hate watching relatively small time youtubers was an actual thing until this site. Legit the type of site that someone powerful sues out of existence at some point.
 
Basically your approach is everyone must believe everything and question nothing
I'm not turning this thread into a debate about the merits of SA allegations so this is the last I'll say of it. But that's absolutely not what I said. I laid out quite clearly that you can evaluate the entire situation and conclude the allegations are credible and true. And not just the SA, but the handful of former team members who have straight up said or alluded to other forms of emotional abuse.

I literally said we should be thinking critically here. And if you do so, looking at the entire situation, the timeframes of everything, where the allegations first appeared, and the response from the team in the last week, that what you conclude is that the allegations are credible.
 
I didn’t see any of these as “allegations.” This is not a lawsuit. These people are just relating what happened to them, their stories, and it’s not up for debate whether they happened or now. Can we stop saying “allegations?”
 
I didn’t see any of these as “allegations.” This is not a lawsuit. These people are just relating what happened to them, their stories, and it’s not up for debate whether they happened or now. Can we stop saying “allegations?”
Using allegations just protects people from lawsuits. Unfortunately that is the world we live in.

I get that it is uncomfortable and makes it feel like those using the term are casting doubt on the victims but it is the proper term when no admission or criminal verdict has happened.
 
Who gets the money and how will help victims of sexual assault? Is it used to pay lawyers for lawsuits? Genuinely curious, not saying it's a bad idea.


RAINN runs the national hotline, a chat, and also a training for different organizations. While those are all great things they are more about education for steps to prevention and signs of SA victims. It is not a bad organization but money does not directly go to victims.

You could donate yo your local victim compensation fund. Idk if that is a Texas only thing but that money is put aside to help cover medic costs, relocation, trial costs, etc (even if I haven't seen any of the promised help I know child victims and those in direct danger have received it).

RAINN is the largest anti-sexual violence organization in the United States. There is a ton of information on its website here. RAINN provides many things to help survivors and prevent sexual violence including:

  • National Sexual Assault 24/7 Hotline which is literally a lifesaver for survivors
  • A Department of Defense helpline for those affected by sexual assault
  • Training and consulting services for companies and organizations
  • Public education resources including those held on college campus to help students
  • Government resource to affect change in policy including working towards solving the country’s rape kit backlog problem
  • Provide staff and volunteers for sexual assault service providers which offer free/low cost counseling to survivors
There’s quite a bit more. I really encourage you to take a look at their website. It is a great organization that does indeed directly help survivors and try to prevent sexual violence.
 
I know there are confirmed accounts on the other site and the allegations are legitimate, but geez some of the people on that site make the player haters from Chapelle show look like nice people. I didn't know hate watching relatively small time youtubers was an actual thing until this site. Legit the type of site that someone powerful sues out of existence at some point.
Yeah, this site needs to be taken down ( I’m not referencing the situation at all here just generally that site is vile). A simple Google search. Internet, trolling, harassment, and abuse gossip site that is British-based will guide you there. They like to spill the tea there, I believe there have been lawsuits and there’s been many legal petitions to take it down.

This is why I had originally posted that I don’t believe everything I read an anonymous forum, right away. When the rumblings first started, they came from the site. I will be honest it’s Pete’s disappearance in sudden drop from the face of this world and the official statements from John and Corey they confirm for me 100% OK there’s something up.
 
All my Amex card statements tied to the same social for personal and tax id number for business show up on the same respective portal when I log in. Now I understated the statements seemed to be mailed to Pete’s house but John (who we are told take cares of all the finances and mundane back office work) never logged in and saw a card never getting paid? They send in a paper check for every statement and never took advantage of bill pay?

I can see Pete having a huge expense account via DUT and might even have an arrangement for DUT to pay for their sponsorship of the dis via that account. But to not pay even pay the minimum for so long without anyone knowing makes no sense. Something seems off.
 
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Sites like the other one exist so folks can speak freely. I know this might burst the bubbles of diehard PW fans who have been with him for years, but up until a week or 2 ago, if Dustin or Sean said something here their posts would have been instantly removed to save brand face.
Because those other forms are free to say what you want the entire story can get out.
PW has not come forward to address anything. I get the Amex thing is pending litigation but rather than defend himself from what Dustin and Sean have said, he has deleted most of his social media and chose to ignore or hide.
Some past and current employees have all chimed in as well about all this now that it is open.
Yes change is difficult and you might feel you can't believe what's going in but with the amount of upheaval going on clearly PW isn't a good guy. Being a jerk to folks on the podcasts was always attributed to him being from NJ according to him... clearly it wasn't NJ and just him being himself.

The world changes constantly. Keep hope that Craig, Ryno and the rest of the team find their footing in their new freedom to run the DIS the way it should be.
 
I also have a cruise booked thru Dreams and I'm very concerned about giving them my final payment. What happens to our reservation if Dreams goes under?
Nothing, dreams is just the middle-man. You should be able to call the cruise line directly to make final payment.

I also canceled a Disney trip I had booked through dreams, coincidentally the same day as all of this came out (before I knew). The email response I got back was not super nice. The agent got my name wrong, and to quote:

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Hi Katie,

I have cancelled this reservation for you.

Please note for the future travel agents work on commission - so when a guest books, we help plan their trip and answer questions. The commission comes to the company about a month after the guest travels and we get a portion of that commission.

Have a great day
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Thought we were told this whole time that the agents don’t work on commission.
 
I was not contesting the legitimacy of anyone's claims, merely stating the fact that these allegations, however well supported, were allegations made on a gossip website where 95% of the people who post are legitimate psychopaths. Maybe one day you will be accused of something and you will realize why the legal system is structured the way it is.

You make allegations, and you then have the opportunity to prove whether those are true. Allegations can be true lol so take it easy. What should I call everything that has been said about Pete? Is everything that has been said by Dustin and Sean an indisputable fact? Literally everything could be true and referring to them as allegations does not mean I think they are untrue, you just have no idea what you are talking about.

It seems likely that many of the allegations were well known by others in and around the DIS team for years. If these stories are true, they cannot be the first stories that have ever happened. I am not trying impugn the character of anyone on that team; I understand what it is like to be on a team where something improper or unprofessional is taking place and doing the 'right' is not always apparent. The third party 'know-it-alls' who have usually accomplished nothing always have all the answers, but in those situations, it is not that simple.
There are many stories that have been around for several years that, if believed, showed mean spirited and predatory behavior on the part of Pete. I read many of Sean's original posts on the other site and all of it seemed very plausible and awful. All of this can be true, and yet Pete never resigned.

The amex legal case was filed in March and if you read it fully it does appear that Dreams was caught off guard, or at least that is what they claim in their response from June 2023. Once the response to the lawsuit was filed by Dreams it seemed obvious, at least to me, that Pete and DU were going to split. That was the only point I was making.

To say I am creating some culture that prevents victims coming forward is a hyperbolic and insane virtue signal. Basically your approach is everyone must believe everything and question nothing, otherwise you are creating a culture of victim blaming. Dustin's story seems true based on what I have read, does that mean I know for a fact exactly what happened? If Pete has a lawyer would he really respond to something on 'that' website? If anyone makes a credible allegation against you, is it really the case that the company should just reflexively fire you, even when you own part of the company and 'getting rid' of you could be very difficult? I haven't created any kind of culture and am not willfully ignorant, I have literally just stated the predicate for the entire legal system in every developed country in the world lol; that these kind of criminal allegations have standards of justice lol. That doesn't mean it doesn't look bad for Pete, or that Dustin or Sean are lying, or that Pete is a great guy and I don't believe he could have done this etc.

I know only what Sean and Dustin have said, just like you. I feel bad for anyone who has been exposed to this type of thing so don't throw these bs lines around just because I won't pretend, like you, to be judge, jury and executioner to gain some moral high ground on a website about disney lol.

All I said was there are alleged incidents of sexual assault and that, whether the DU team was aware of them or not, Pete would have resigned because of the lawsuit anyway. If you want to read into the resignation to believe it means DU has done some internal investigation and proved all the alleged assault incidents are true, that is fine, but there is no way to know that.
The one fallacy in your argument is that PW is also separating from the Dis which is separate from DUT and owned by him, not with the other 2 partners of DUT. So yea, the allegations are playing a part in this.
 
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