Do you need to maintain 150 DVC pts to have the blue card?

[sheyunster]

I'm wondering about 2 scenerios. Any insight you all may have would be very much appreciated.

1) I have 150 direct dvc pts and blue card privileges. After 5 years, I sell 50 pts. Have I lost my blue card because I no longer have 150 pts?

2) My kids each inherit a 75 pt contract, splitting my original 150 pt contract. Do they have the blue card privileges of the original contract or do they lose them because they are below 150 pt threshold?

Thanks!

 

[DonMacGregor]

1). If you sell 50 points, you will drop below the 150 point minimum and lose the Blue Card privileges.

2). You can't split a contract. You would have to sell the 150 point contract and buy two separate 75-point (or some other number) contracts. Then see answer #1.

ETA: To add to #1, if you have a single 150-point contract, then you can't sell 50 points anyway, so you can't drop below 150 points unless you sell the whole thing.

 

[Sandisw]

The points carry the benefit. Once you sell the contract that made you eligible, then you lose them.

Once lost, you would then need to get to the new minimum to get them back.

 

[sheyunster]

Thank you for information. I have a contract through resale and was looking to buy smaller contracts direct as add on points. This also allows them to be split more easily amongst my kids. If I were to purchase 6 x 25 pt contracts over time, I would receive blue card privileges and was just trying to figure out if the 150 pts needed to be maintained to keep the privileges and it sounds like it does. Thanks!

 

[DonMacGregor]

Thank you for information. I have a contract through resale and was looking to buy smaller contracts direct as add on points. This also allows them to be split more easily amongst my kids. If I were to purchase 6 x 25 pt contracts over time, I would receive blue card privileges and was just trying to figure out if the 150 pts needed to be maintained to keep the privileges and it sounds like it does. Thanks!

All 150 points need to purchased direct from Disney. Contract sizes can be as small as 25-50 depending on the resort, but they all need to be direct and add up to 150. 6 contracts is a lot of closing costs though...

 

[Marionnette]

Thank you for information. I have a contract through resale and was looking to buy smaller contracts direct as add on points. This also allows them to be split more easily amongst my kids. If I were to purchase 6 x 25 pt contracts over time, I would receive blue card privileges and was just trying to figure out if the 150 pts needed to be maintained to keep the privileges and it sounds like it does. Thanks!

There's nothing to stop DVC from raising the minimum number of direct points needed to qualify for Member benefits. You could reach 125 points only to have them raise the requirement to 200.

 

[Sandisw]

And to add, the contracts you buy are directly tied to the minimum.

Say you bought three 50 point point contracts over time, get to the 150. Then you add on another 50 later but the minimum is now 200.

If you sell or transfer any of the original three, you would the 150 threshold. You must always own the contracts that qualified you for benefits.

 

[sheyunster]

Thank you. This is all good information for someone trying to understand this. I actually chatted with someone at Disney that didn't know. She said I would need to speak to the contracts team but could only do that if I was already a member.
My understanding is that if I had acquired enough pts to reach the 150 threshold and disney changed the threshold to 200 for extra membership privileges, I would be grandfathered in... is that correct? (Or at least that's how it's be handled in the past, right?) Also, I'm assuming you get blue card privileges for 150 pts even if the pts are for different resorts?

 

[DonMacGregor]

Once you reach the current threshold for qualification for Membership Extras, you will maintain that qualification as long as you own the contracts used for qualification. If you sell one and drop below the threshold, then any new points you buy will be tied to whatever the current threshold is at the time of purchase. If that threshold is now 200, then you’d need to buy enough points to get to 200 direct. If it’s still 150 (the current threshold), then selling 50 points and buying 50 more (as long as they are direct) wouldn’t affect your status.

As to multiple resorts, you can have your points at as many resorts as you like, as long as the total number of direct points meet the threshold for qualification, although a bunch of small contracts at different resorts won't be of great practical use.

 

[kanerf]

Yes, the contract that gave you the Blue Card is the important one. Mine was only 50 points at the time and I still own it. I imagine if I sell it than I would have to have the current Blue Card required points in my account to maintain the status.

 

[PatMcDuck]

I had 200 points at BCV (direct purchase). Bought 25 at BR. A month later sold the 200 at BCV. And bought 200 at BR resale (different use year). Those 25 still give me blue card status. Don't hate me. LOL. When I bought the 25, I didn't know that minimum was about to get raised, and now raised several times more.

We originally owned at OKW, sold those and bought the BCV points when it first went on sale, members since 1995(OKW). Just decided we loved the whole WL vibe the most. We always broke even even with all costs were factored in.

 

[Sandisw]

Thank you. This is all good information for someone trying to understand this. I actually chatted with someone at Disney that didn't know. She said I would need to speak to the contracts team but could only do that if I was already a member.
My understanding is that if I had acquired enough pts to reach the 150 threshold and disney changed the threshold to 200 for extra membership privileges, I would be grandfathered in... is that correct? (Or at least that's how it's be handled in the past, right?) Also, I'm assuming you get blue card privileges for 150 pts even if the pts are for different resorts?

If you buy at 150, it’s tied to the contract you purchased at that time so as long as you maintain them, you are eligible..though I am not as confident as others they have to grandfather..but that’s a different subject.

Assuming they can’t change it, it still means you have to keep those original contacts. If you sell any of them, you then have to meet the new thread hold.

So, people who bought when it was 100, even if they add on more now, must keep those original contracts..well, at least that is how it was explained to when we were adding direct points with my adult kids to get the benefits. If we ever sell that contract, we no longer qualify for 125.

If we buy a contract now and it’s 125, with the minimum at 150, that contract would not be eligible to keep us grandfathered if I sell the one from 2019 because it was bought after the minimum was changed.

 

[ScubaCat]

Those 25 still give me blue card status. Don't hate me. LOL.

I own 610 points, all resale, and have a blue card. So you bought more direct than I did

Even for pre-4/4/2016 resale contracts, the same policy holds. If I sold all those contracts, I'd lose blue card privileges and would have to buy the current minimum direct points to get them back.

 

[NicoleLarson]

Just to add my experience, it just depends on when you bought your current contract and what the stipulations were at that time. As long as you hang onto that contract, no matter what restrictions are put in place afterwards, you will only have to meet what the restrictions were at that time.

My experience is that we had 2 contracts 1 direct and 1 much smaller resale. Both were bought prior to the implementation of any resale restrictions. We sold our direct contract and now only hold our small resale contract. We still have our blue card and maintain all the perks that go with it, eventhough we are well below the 150pt threshold that exists now.

 

[Sandisw]

Just to add my experience, it just depends on when you bought your current contract and what the stipulations were at that time. As long as you hang onto that contract, no matter what restrictions are put in place afterwards, you will only have to meet what the restrictions were at that time.

My experience is that we had 2 contracts 1 direct and 1 much smaller resale. Both were bought prior to the implementation of any resale restrictions. We sold our direct contract and now only hold our small resale contract. We still have our blue card and maintain all the perks that go with it, eventhough we are well below the 150pt threshold that exists now.

Exactly because you still hold a contract that was eligible for perks when it was bought.

 

[zavandor]

Thank you. This is all good information for someone trying to understand this. I actually chatted with someone at Disney that didn't know. She said I would need to speak to the contracts team but could only do that if I was already a member.
My understanding is that if I had acquired enough pts to reach the 150 threshold and disney changed the threshold to 200 for extra membership privileges, I would be grandfathered in... is that correct? (Or at least that's how it's be handled in the past, right?) Also, I'm assuming you get blue card privileges for 150 pts even if the pts are for different resorts?

Your're right. Grandfathering always happened in the past, but it's not a guarantee for the future.
Nothing stops Disney to terminate the Membership Magic program, start a new program called Magic Membership and require that everyone now need 200 direct points.

 

[heynowirv]

Thank you for information. I have a contract through resale and was looking to buy smaller contracts direct as add on points. This also allows them to be split more easily amongst my kids. If I were to purchase 6 x 25 pt contracts over time, I would receive blue card privileges and was just trying to figure out if the 150 pts needed to be maintained to keep the privileges and it sounds like it does. Thanks!

More than likely by the time you get to 150 you'll need 200 or more.

 

[Her Dotness]

More than likely by the time you get to 150 you'll need 200 or more.

No kidding. I don't doubt one bit that's likely given recent trends.

 

[Hoppy-tn]

Hello, my wife and I are in the process of buying a 200 point contract for boardwalk through resale. Just to make sure I understand what I have read in this thread, if we added on points direct through Disney it would have to be 150 pt minimum to acquire blue card status? Can you do this to a contract bought through resale? Thanks

 

[chalee94]

if we added on points direct through Disney it would have to be 150 pt minimum to acquire blue card status? Can you do this to a contract bought through resale? Thanks

If you want "blue card" status, you need to purchase 150 pts direct - yes.

there is no way to "qualify" resale contracts, though. so your 200 pt resale contract will never be able to book RIV and will not qualify you for AP discounts or whatever. (but you will likely save a great deal of money.)