Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[MickeyWaffles]

In other words, you don't have a source.

If you do the work you suggest, but do it well, you will find on the order or 10,428 value rooms, ~6,507 mods excluding the cabins (most get this wrong by forgetting the changes at CB and CSR, I still have not found a source I trust on the net change at CSR), and about 4950 deluxes--many get this wrong by forgetting to take out half of the old WL for CC, etc.

These sum to about 21,900. SO you think the Fort and WDW DVC have 11,000 rentable spaces among them?

I believe DVC has approximately 6,000 villas at WDW, ranging from studio to 3br grand villa. Someone did the math on the DVC board a while back but can‘t find it.

 

[andyman8]

In other words, you don't have a source.

If you do the work you suggest, but do it well, you will find on the order or 10,428 value rooms, ~6,507 mods excluding the cabins (most get this wrong by forgetting the changes at CB and CSR, I still have not found a source I trust on the net change at CSR), and about 4950 deluxes--many get this wrong by forgetting to take out half of the old WL for CC, etc.

These sum to about 21,900. SO you think the Fort and WDW DVC have 11,000 rentable spaces among them?

There's no reason to get unnecessarily aggressive over hotel numbers. I'm providing the information I have. I think most posters here would agree that any sort of hostility is not productive or helpful. Before you accuse me of not having a source, here's the official info. This come directly from Disney Media Relations.

Total number of guestrooms at Walt Disney World Resort – more than 30,000 ***

Number of Disney owned/operated guestrooms – nearly 24,000

Number of Disney Vacation Club units – 3,293 (2-bedroom equivalents)

Number of campsites at Disney’s Fort Wilderness Resort and Campground – 799

https://wdwnews.com/fact-sheets/2018/06/01/walt-disney-world-resort-hotels-fact-sheet/
ETA: This number includes all guest rooms that would be eligible for FP+/EMH benefits, and Disney has said those hotels would be included as "onsite hotels."

 

[mhautz]

In other words, you don't have a source.

If you do the work you suggest, but do it well, you will find on the order or 10,428 value rooms, ~6,507 mods excluding the cabins (most get this wrong by forgetting the changes at CB and CSR, I still have not found a source I trust on the net change at CSR), and about 4950 deluxes--many get this wrong by forgetting to take out half of the old WL for CC, etc.

These sum to about 21,900. SO you think the Fort and WDW DVC have 11,000 rentable spaces among them?

I've often seen the quote about 30,000+ rooms at Disney, but you might be right. Using the numbers on TouringPlans (which I'm not claiming is 100% accurate but I think is a decent reference), there are approximately 36000 rooms "onsite", but that number includes things such as Disney Springs and other hotels not run by Disney. That's where that number probably comes from. There's about 28,000 Disney-run hotel and DVC rooms, so any 30,000 plus number must be referring to those other onsite hotels.

 

[Pksmom03]

Does anyone remember how close Ratatouille was to being finished? With the MDE showing Spaceship Earth in the refurbishment section, Epcot could really use this ride being open asap.

 

[andyman8]

I've often seen the quote about 30,000+ rooms at Disney, but you might be right. Using the numbers on TouringPlans (which I'm not claiming is 100% accurate but I think is a decent reference), there are approximately 36000 rooms "onsite", but that number includes things such as Disney Springs and other hotels not run by Disney. That's where that number probably comes from. There's about 28,000 Disney-run hotel and DVC rooms, so any 30,000 plus number must be referring to those other onsite hotels.

Yes but those other onsite hotels (the “official” ones are all DS ones, Four Seasons, SoG, Swan, Dolphin, Hilton BC, and WA Orlando) included in this number also all get the same FP+ and EMH benefits. On this thread, it’s been pointed out that Disney plans to extend this priority access to guests of those hotels. Therefore, we can’t discount them.

ETA: Specifically from KTP: “According to other reports that received confirmation from Disney sources, these Guests will be included in the priority access to the reservation system.”

 

[Pksmom03]

Also, I got the tickets I bought from UT to connect to my MDE account. Don’t know if that will help me get a reservation sooner or not but I thought I would at least try again at this point.

 

[zemmer]

I wonder how they can accommodate DAS if they’re utilizing both FP and SB areas as SB lines.

 

[cristen72]

Also, I got the tickets I bought from UT to connect to my MDE account. Don’t know if that will help me get a reservation sooner or not but I thought I would at least try again at this point.

I’m trying this too. Ordered today with 2 day shipping. Should be here Wednesday, so I’m crossing my fingers I can add them that day.

 

[mhautz]

Yes but those other onsite hotels (the “official” ones are all DS ones, Four Seasons, SoG, Swan, Dolphin, Hilton BC, and WA Orlando) included in this number also all get the same FP+ and EMH benefits. On this thread, it’s been pointed out that Disney plans to extend this priority access to guests of those hotels. Therefore, we can’t discount them.

Oh I agree. There was just a lot of "debate" about number of rooms, so just wanted to help explain where differing numbers come from.

I will say, though, do we have any indication that the advanced access to the reservation system, which is the main reason for this talk, will actually apply to these hotels? I don't think this is guaranteed.

 

[andyman8]

Oh I agree. There was just a lot of "debate" about number of rooms, so just wanted to help explain where differing numbers come from.

I will say, though, do we have any indication that the advanced access to the reservation system, which is the main reason for this talk, will actually apply to these hotels? I don't think this is guaranteed.

From Kenny the Pirate: “According to other reports that received confirmation from Disney sources, these Guests will be included in the priority access to the reservation system.”

Remember that Disney/Walt Disney Travel has agreements in place with those hotels to sell vacation packages that they at least have to honor through the end of the year.

 

[WonderlandisReality]

I wonder how they can accommodate DAS if they’re utilizing both FP and SB areas as SB lines.

Also interested in this answer but then again if virtual queues are widespread it becomes a moot point

 

[mhautz]

Also interested in this answer but then again if virtual queues are widespread it becomes a moot point

Yeah, I was kind of thinking virtual queues could just work like DAS and problem solved.

 

[Janet McDonald]

My daughters dance group was scheduled to perform there mid June. Coming from Arkansas there were approximately 225 (dancers and their families and friends) of coming in our group that would not have ordinarily been at Disney. We were one performance in one 30 minute slot where there were 5-6 performances per day from different groups. There are other ways that Disney gets people there such as pageants, sports competition, and other people things I have never heard of. All of these things of course are axed. I have to believe that this will reduce the amount of people there greatly as well. I’m sure I’m wrong and someone with more knowledge than me will be able to educate but I just can’t believe that the demand will be there even close to a normal summer. I’m probably just grasping at this to make me feel better that I will be able to get in on my July 15-23 dates.

 

[andyman8]

My daughters dance group was scheduled to perform there mid June. Coming from Arkansas there were approximately 225 (dancers and their families and friends) of coming in our group that would not have ordinarily been at Disney. We were one performance in one 30 minute slot where there were 5-6 performances per day from different groups. There are other ways that Disney gets people there such as pageants, sports competition, and other people things I have never heard of. All of these things of course are axed. I have to believe that this will reduce the amount of people there greatly as well. I’m sure I’m wrong and someone with more knowledge than me will be able to educate but I just can’t believe that the demand will be there even close to a normal summer. I’m probably just grasping at this to make me feel better that I will be able to get in on my July 15-23 dates.

Yes, this is how they plan to consolidate the All-Stars. Sports groups, youth groups, international tour groups are all going to be canceled.

 

[MrsSmith07]

In other words, you don't have a source.

If you do the work you suggest, but do it well, you will find on the order or 10,428 value rooms, ~6,507 mods excluding the cabins (most get this wrong by forgetting the changes at CB and CSR, I still have not found a source I trust on the net change at CSR), and about 4950 deluxes--many get this wrong by forgetting to take out half of the old WL for CC, etc.

These sum to about 21,900. SO you think the Fort and WDW DVC have 11,000 rentable spaces among them?

These are the totals rooms per Touring Plans. Only issue is they don't list out Polynesian Villas, so I'm assuming those rooms are included in the Poly resort #'s. I included the not Disney owned that Touring plans covered, but I know there are more than those 3. ETA - I type too slow, and others have already covered, sorry!

 

[chicagoshannon]

My daughters dance group was scheduled to perform there mid June. Coming from Arkansas there were approximately 225 (dancers and their families and friends) of coming in our group that would not have ordinarily been at Disney. We were one performance in one 30 minute slot where there were 5-6 performances per day from different groups. There are other ways that Disney gets people there such as pageants, sports competition, and other people things I have never heard of. All of these things of course are axed. I have to believe that this will reduce the amount of people there greatly as well. I’m sure I’m wrong and someone with more knowledge than me will be able to educate but I just can’t believe that the demand will be there even close to a normal summer. I’m probably just grasping at this to make me feel better that I will be able to get in on my July 15-23 dates.

I really don't think those with hotel reservations will have too much of a problem getting into a park. Hotels are going to be pretty empty I think. I know there were a decent amount of people that had resevations before the announcement but the majority I've seen say they'll be canceling.

 

[skeeter31]

I really don't think those with hotel reservations will have too much of a problem getting into a park. Hotels are going to be pretty empty I think. I know there were a decent amount of people that had resevations before the announcement but the majority I've seen say they'll be canceling.

Correct and with the closing of resorts and consolidation to the open resorts, I’m thinking resort guests will be able to reserve parks days easily. The first week will be rough with bloggers, but after that it’s going to quiet down drastically.

 

[TomServo27]

These are the totals rooms per Touring Plans. Only issue is they don't list out Polynesian Villas, so I'm assuming those rooms are included in the Poly resort #'s. I included the not Disney owned that Touring plans covered, but I know there are more than those 3. ETA - I type too slow, and others have already covered, sorry!

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I don’t see AoA on that list.

 

[MrsSmith07]

I don’t see AoA on that list.

my bad, was trying to put in a list so quickly that I skipped that one. It's on this one. Thank you for pointing that out.

 

[DebbieB]

I really don't think those with hotel reservations will have too much of a problem getting into a park. Hotels are going to be pretty empty I think. I know there were a decent amount of people that had resevations before the announcement but the majority I've seen say they'll be canceling.

I had looked in the DVC reservation system about a week ago before the announcement and July and forward were pretty full. I looked at it last night and July and August now have a lot of availability, especially the larger rooms. So that reflects the number of DVC people cancelling.