S/O of Charlottesville

[AnnaFloridaLover]

There will always be hate in our world and there will always be differences of opinion. Am I scared? Yes, for my children because the current global situation is deeply disturbing to me. I will not raise my children to hate but I will raise them to be smart and compassionate. I believe everyone has the right to their belief and to peacefully protest said belief. When it causes actual harm to someone else then it should be stopped. I'm not talking about having your feelings hurt, but actual physical harm. Hate in any form (racism, religious persecution, sexism, etc) will never stop, just as love will also never stop. Its a matter of how we decide to teach our children and live our own lives.

Can you imagine for one minute that your kids are not WHITE and are at the University of Virginia right now? Picture, if you will, your child's dark faces. It's not about feelings being hurt. it's about being absolutely terrorized by the KKK, the alt right and white supremacists.

 

[sunshinehighway]

And an example of why some sides will never find common ground. You presume & make assumptions, why didn't you ask what I meant then an intelligent conversation can take place but no the only view is your myopic one.

Head meet wall. Done.

It's not always about common ground. There's no common ground to be found with Nazis, KKK, white supremacists.
You are still just playing games and it's transparent. It's impossible to have an actual discussion with someone who just wants to be coy and think they are clever instead of actually be honest.

 

[AnnaFloridaLover]

Luckily I don't believe that attitude is prevalent here.
I have tried to do my part, telling the kids to go away and stop saying it but all that does is get me called names by them. I just hope their family moves far the heck away some day soon.

It's definitely more prevalent in some places than others. For sure my kids have been lucky enough to have a great life, thus far. Still, I worry that hate will once again get the upper hand. My husband grew up in the projects, the son of the poorest of immigrants. Thankfully, angels (who happened to be white) were definitely looking out for him.

 

[disneyjunkie]

And an example of why some sides will never find common ground. You presume & make assumptions, why didn't you ask what I meant then an intelligent conversation can take place but no the only view is your myopic one.

Head meet wall. Done.

Bye-bye

 

[FlightlessDuck]

Before this gets closed because it is political. SJW, Antifas & entitled millennials...

Poster wants to say something before the thread gets closed because it is political. Immediately gets political.

 

[mnrose]

I'd like to believe that a second civil war would not last long because there would be more people standing up to these monsters (white supremacists) than there would be on the side of racism.

I hope so. But, I'm not optimistic. Racism has an ugly side, and it's alive and well. It never went away. It went underground. For people to say we live in a post-racial society is just naive. It's real. Very, sadly, unapologetically real.

 

[mnrose]

Poster wants to say something before the thread gets closed because it is political. Immediately gets political.

It's also a false equivalency. There were people on the side of evil today in Charlottesville and if you don't know which side that was, well, then YOU are the problem. Beyond a doubt.

 

[McMonsters]

Can you imagine for one minute that your kids are not WHITE and are at the University of Virginia right now? Picture, if you will, your child's dark faces. It's not about feelings being hurt. it's about being absolutely terrorized by the KKK, the alt right and white supremacists.

I can actually, I attended middle school as a minority in a predominately black school system during the Rodney King riots. I was scared to death to go to school because of the things that were said to me because of my color. Ultimately my parents pulled me out and moved to a different area only because I got jumped in the bathroom by at least five girls. I can't say if there was more because I eventually blacked out. My best friend was raped by a group of guys during the same weeks. Did I grow up to hate and teach my kids to hate? No, I did not. My husband is in the middle of a war zone patching up the same people who blew him up on his first deployment and killed one of his buddies. We choose not to let hate rule our lives or let bullies determine what we do.

 

[Soldier's*Sweeties]

I'm so done with this whole topic. I shouldn't have even opened this thread after the screaming math that ensued at a family BBQ.

I really just want everyone to get along and shoot rainbows out of their butts... Seriously. I can't believe this is 2017.

 

[AnnaFloridaLover]

I can actually, I attended middle school as a minority in a predominately black school system during the Rodney King riots. I was scared to death to go to school because of the things that were said to my because of my color. Ultimately my parents pulled me out and moved to a different area only because I got jumped in the bathroom by at least five girls. I can't say if there was more because I eventually blacked out. My best friend was raped by a group of guys during the same weeks. Did I grow up to hate and teach my kids to hate? No, I did not. My husband is in the middle of a war zone patching up the same people who blew him up on his first deployment and killed one of his buddies. We choose not to let hate rule our lives or let bullies determine what we do.

Just so you know, my husband also patches up people who hate him. Everyday. For 35 years. And protects them. Rapists are white, black, and all the colors in between. War zones? I'm not going there.

 

[FlightlessDuck]

My husband is in the middle of a war zone patching up the same people who blew him up on his first deployment and killed one of his buddies.

I am truly sorry that your husband was hurt in the Middle East, and his friend was killed. and that you were attacked in the 90's. I really am. But look at the words you are using. The same people. Not "people from the same country" or "people from the same religion", or "people from the same ethnicity".

Everyone is different. The girls who beat you up and guys who raped your friend aren't the same people in Charlottesville right now. They aren't the same people in the next neighborhood over. The civilians dying in Syria aren't the same people who attacked us 15 years ago. Everybody has their own story and life. Everybody has their own experiences and beliefs. You don't lump them together because they come from the same place.

 

[disneyjunkie]

There will always be hate in our world and there will always be differences of opinion. Am I scared? Yes, for my children because the current global situation is deeply disturbing to me. I will not raise my children to hate but I will raise them to be smart and compassionate. I believe everyone has the right to their belief and to peacefully protest said belief. When it causes actual harm to someone else then it should be stopped. I'm not talking about having your feelings hurt, but actual physical harm. Hate in any form (racism, religious persecution, sexism, etc) will never stop, just as love will also never stop. Its a matter of how we decide to teach our children and live our own lives.

But the harm those opinions/ views cause isn't just physical.

Take a look at our educational system. Institutional racism is rampant in the school system. Are you familiar with the school to prison pipeline?

The physical impact of racism is easy to spot. The other aren't.

I agree that people are free to say and feel what they want. However, those opinions should not have a negative impact on others.

 

[DisneylandDarling]

I'm scared. I've been scared for the better part of a year, actually, and I'm a white female in a good town. It's something new everyday and between foreign relations and now domestic relations, we're living in an extremely divisive and terrifying time. There's not much I'm in control of, but in times like these I cling to God and my family. I try not to succumb to the hate-filled climate we're in and spread kindness to those in my corner of the world as best as I can.

Hold tight, we'll get through this.

 

[McMonsters]

I am truly sorry that your husband was hurt in the Middle East, and his friend was killed. and that you were attacked in the 90's. I really am. But look at the words you are using. The same people. Not "people from the same country" or "people from the same religion", or "people from the same ethnicity".

Everyone is different. The girls who beat you up and guys who raped your friend aren't the same people in Charlottesville right now. They aren't the same people in the next neighborhood over. The civilians dying in Syria aren't the same people who attacked us 15 years ago. Everybody has their own story and life. Everybody has their own experiences and beliefs. You don't lump them together because they come from the same place.

They actually are the same people in regards to my dh, he patches up those captured so they can stand trials for the crimes they have been accused. No these people are not the same, we agree. I was attempting to point out that we shouldn't let a small group of people who have caused issues change us or scare us until we change our way of living.

But the harm those opinions/ views cause isn't just physical.

Take a look at our educational system. Institutional racism is rampant in the school system. Are you familiar with the school to prison pipeline?

The physical impact of racism is easy to spot. The other aren't.

I agree that people are free to say and feel what they want. However, those opinions should not have a negative impact on others.

But where do we stop? How do we decide whose negative impact is more important? Its a slippery slope....

I was a teacher in our local school system before staying home with our oldest child's medical issues. We need to fix the system fast! I truly believe its at the root of some of our nations biggest problems.

 

[FlightlessDuck]

I am truly sorry that your husband was hurt in the Middle East, and his friend was killed. and that you were attacked in the 90's. I really am. But look at the words you are using. The same people. Not "people from the same country" or "people from the same religion", or "people from the same ethnicity.

At the same time, your statement is good and admirable. Don't let your past dictate your future. Don't let what some people due to you cloud your opinion of that type of person. So now I feel bad for complaining about your tone...

 

[FlightlessDuck]

They actually are the same people, he patches up those captured so they can stand trials for the crimes they have been accused.

Well, heck. Now I just feel stupid. Sorry.

 

[disneyjunkie]

But where do we stop? How do we decide whose negative impact is more important? Its a slippery slope....

I was a teacher in our local school system before staying home with our oldest child's medical issues. We need to fix the system fast! I truly believe its at the root of some of our nations biggest problems.

I'm also a teacher. As long as we ignore racism and the role it plays in staffing, student placement, funding...the system will not be fixed

 

[McMonsters]

At the same time, your statement is good and admirable. Don't let your past dictate your future. Don't let what some people due to you cloud your opinion of that type of person. So now I feel bad for complaining about your tone...

I suck at trying to post what my head is saying. I think I sometimes come across rigid and emotionless, I really don't mean to!

Well, heck. Now I just feel stupid. Sorry.

No apology needed, we are all on the same side. Everyone here is hurt and disgusted by the deplorable actions of a few, we are all trying to find the solution.

 

[perditax]

Politicians have done their damnedest to split the country in two, and between that and the internet, everyone is at each other's throats. It's terrifying. I don't understand why everyone can't just take a breath, step away from the news and the keyboards, and take a good long look at themselves and their attitudes and prejudices (we all have them, in one form or another) ... and maybe think about where they came from, and whether those attitudes are making you happy or doing any good in the world.

I was traveling through Florida the morning the news of the Pulse shooting was breaking. I remember thinking, that summer, that no way could things get worse. Now I miss my sweet, naive 2016 self.

 

[gottaluvPluto]

My DD is also scared about what is going on here. She is a minority and terrified that friends and people at the college will find out who she voted for and beat the crap out of her. I have tons of conservative and liberal friends that don't support the violence or racism from both sides. What you are seeing in the news is only a very very tiny fraction of Americans. Remember, majority of Americans are not evil or racist.